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[–] Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 127 points 7 months ago (24 children)

I'm a 30 year old man and I couldn't imagine chasing 18 year olds. I teach college students, I speak to 18 year olds regularly. They're not for me.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago (3 children)

There is a big difference between sex and a relationship.

If I werent married I'd absolutely screw a woman half my age, but dating one... I see complications.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But that's... not the issue here? Men are much more attractive when they are 20 compared to 40 as well.

That doesn't make me creep around university trying to get into their pants. It also doesn't inspire me to write sexist stuff online, etc.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Im saying that its biologically healthy to look at a young attractive person (of your preferred gender) and go "Yep, I would really like to do things with that person" It is however societaly problematic to be a perv in trying to make it happen and does raise some awkward questions about what a guy is really looking for if he wants to be with someone half his age.

As for the sexist stuff online. You ever seen some womens wishlists on dating sites? Now I aint saying shes a gold digger... but you know the rest of it.

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[–] callipygin@reddthat.com 67 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (15 children)

OK I'll be the one to go against the grain in these comments. I am a nearly 40 year old man and I would bang a hot college girl in an instant. I can't help that.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 73 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Theres also a YAWNING FUCKING CHASM between "Yes, If I were single I would really like to have a woman almost half my age find me sexually attractive enough to fuck me" and going out of your way to try and make it happen.

Also, like none of those 35yo women ever went and flicked the bean after watching the 20yo who mows their lawn go shirtless in summer.

[–] callipygin@reddthat.com 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Oh for sure. I wouldn't want to be a creepy guy to a young person. But the other comments were all like "I'm not even attracted to young beautiful women"

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not even attracted to young beautiful women

Depends entirely on how old the person saying it is which is will vary wildly from commenter to commenter.

No because 18-year-olds are kids. I'm not even close to 40 and I think 18-year-olds are kids (especially from an emotional maturity perspective). 20s would be like the absolute youngest.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I'm in my 40s and I'm in a college town and I honestly can't tell whether I'm looking at a college student or a high school student half the time.

In terms of basic aesthetics, I can appreciate the beauty of an 18-year-old, but I can appreciate the beauty of a 5-year-old in an aesthetic sense. Sexually, they look way too young to me.

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago (14 children)

I'm a guy and when I was 18 I got a lot of interest from women in their 40s. Sexual attraction is just natural.

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[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 39 points 7 months ago

There's a lot you can help here, though.

  1. Don't be a creep.

  2. Don't lie to your partner about this.

  3. Don't spin some weird sexist or misogynistic bs theories out of your attraction.

That's it. Doesn't seem too hard but you'd be surprised how many are struggling with these simple rules of decency and respect.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Did you mean FOR an instant?

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[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 65 points 7 months ago

It's definitely more of a combination of disgust and secondhand embarrassment. When I was 18, my mid-30s manager was clearly into me and I definitely thought he was creepy and old and everyone made fun of him behind his back. Now that I'm on the other side, it doesn't look any less pathetic. 18 year olds look like children because I'm old enough to be their parent, and the only thing I've ever felt for one is vaguely maternal affection. The idea of dating them is super gross.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 59 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Normal dudes think those guys are creeps too. I'm in my 40s, and have several guy friends my age who date, and it's always with women their age.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 56 points 7 months ago

I'm 46 and married, but if I was single, I absolutely wouldn't want someone almost 30 years younger than me. We'd have so little in common! I suppose if you just look at women as objects to stick your dick into...

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There’s enough illegal shit for me to be disgusted with, I don’t have time to be bothered by any relationship between two consenting adults regardless of how little sense that relationship might make to me.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 53 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Not to mention, as a 30+ year old, looking at 18 year olds feels…gross. They look like children.

[–] GCanuck@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

After 40, the “child age” jumped to like 25 for me. As in those under 25 look like children.

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[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The flip side of that is so wild. Remember being like 12 and an 18 year old seemed so grown up? Now I see an 18 year old and...yeah that's a child, bro

[–] books@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah I've got some divorced dad friends who like the college age women and they are just boring AF to talk to. I don't get it.

Pretty? sure, but boring AF. Give me a little baggage and some life stories and I'm in.

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I'm an older dude, I can't hardly stand being near a fucking teenager, much less want to have sex with one, they're annoying as hell. What the fuck is wrong with some people.

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[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A friend of mine with daughters told me that he couldn't see the appeal in teen girls, because "I have two; they don't even know how to wipe properly."

[–] porksoda@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That might be a family problem more than a teen girl problem. 😒

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[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Reminded of:

Note, the last woman (Eden):

reportedly shouldn’t be on the graph. Ol’ Leo’s single apparently.

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When I was in my late 20s, I went to a local con with an 18-19 year old coworker and her friend about the same age. Nothing funky, just hey if you're going we're going come roll with us.

Love them to death but jeez Louise I could never date one of them. They weren't even particularly immature or anything but theres nothing to relate on or talk about etc etc.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's like a different world. They have different slang, music tastes, different types of friend and school drama, physical energy levels, at a different stage of their life, etc. I agree, what do you even talk about?

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Ironic. I'm in to 30-something women and even 40-something women, but the catch is they have to not be mentally ill

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago

I keep getting older, but they all stay the same age.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago (8 children)

I have always found this argument to be hilarious in a deeply sexist way.

Why? Because it takes two to tango.

If young women really did find older men repulsive and creepy, why do so many of them date older men? Why do a fair number of them marry older men, especially in this era of unprecedented economic opportunities for women?

The fact is, such attitudes against a very historically normal pairing is shaming two people who are functional adults for their very adult choices and decisions.

Or do you somehow disagree that an 18-yo woman isn’t a “functional adult”? Because I see that attitude of infantilizing and bubble-wrapping women against the consequences of their own choices and decisions as deeply sexist, and a prime example of misogyny.

Meanwhile, men of that exact same age can be forcibly conscripted to fight and die in some foreign oil-war that they never had an opportunity to vote against. How are we adult enough at that age to die without any choice in the matter, but women aren’t adult enough to choose whom to be with?

Gotta love that gender bigotry.

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

People are probably not functional adults until 23-25. But it's harder to mold a 25yo to die in a war for you than a 18yo.

I do agree with your general point - it takes two to tango. And a lot of the older women complaining have themselves dated across the chasm when they were younger.

It always felt odd to me and still does though - I feel that the larger the gap the more it reveals deeper issues for both sides.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 11 points 7 months ago (6 children)

What I also find deeply hypocritical is how many of these women treat a gender chasm in the first place:

  • Young woman with older man? That pervert! He’s a pedophile!!
  • Older woman with a young guy? You go, girl! Ride him like a cowgirl!

And yes, that age gap can be identical in both examples.

[–] Misconduct@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And yet plenty of women also shame older women that are preying on much younger men too. That's not making a point it's trying to make an excuse.

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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 7 months ago

But it's harder to mold a 25yo to die in a war for you than a 18yo.

Yup. Between education and maturity, I became a (mostly) pacifist by 25, after fully intending to join up before I started uni.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's been scientifically proven that 18 year olds' brains aren't fully developed. Biologically, no you are not an adult at 18. Arguing that it's all good because both parties are ostensibly consenting adults is besides the point. The older party, no matter what gender, shouldn't be chasing people well outside their peer group. There's obviously a layer of manipulation when 2 people of wildly different ages get together.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 11 points 7 months ago

18 year olds aren't really adults.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Attractive, Intelligent, Sane

At 18 you can pick 3 but always focus on one. You're looking for "true love", but your crotch isn't.

At 25 you can pick 2, but you still don't know which one is most important. You're looking for "Mr/Miss/Ms Right", but are starting to feel like you're Mr/Miss/Ms Leftover" because a lot of people pair up before you.

At 30+ you can pick one, but you're mostly looking for someone who matches you "child-free" status. You've realised a relationship is something you make, not something you find. This is the age to be wary of "gold diggers" looking for a bankroll.

When you're 35+ it turns from a structured partner hunt into "fuck it, we ride". At this point, you just want to enjoy life, because there isn't much free time!

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't get it. I'm 38m and don't find college-age girls attractive anymore. Even in terms of physical attraction, I'm more attracted to women my age. 18 just looks like a kid to me.

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[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

ITT: older dudes pretending they’re Leo DiCaprio. You’re nooooottt. If you think I am wrong, please hit a college party this weekend.

People of dating age can do whatever they want! But let’s please not pretend that what applies to above average men applies to all men. Or what applies to above average women applies to all women!

From what I can tell, doesn’t matter your age. Any gender can be attractive at an older age, look at JLo or Sofia what’s her name. Depends on your level of attractiveness, above average attractive people have a timeless quality, goes for both men and women.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So....don't be ugly. Got it.

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[–] Mahonia@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

So I fully believe that the reason that the reason that perceived peak attractiveness is such a different age for men and women is because of predatory intentions. Meaningful and enthusiastic consent is hard to give when someone has that much more agency than you, and I think this is the whole plot.

I think I have a theory, they're assuming other people are just as incapable of empathy or sympathy as they are, therefore the only reason in their mind that anyone would have an issue with it is jealousy.

Add into that the insecure need to make other people feel bad, and they think by loudly proclaiming it for all to hear, assuming that you will feel bad upon hearing their opinion.

So long story short: they're a piece of shit and their opinions should be ignored by all.

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