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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 221 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Had an Italian friend (as in, from Italy, not someone whose great great great great grandpappy once snorted a line of parmesan) tell me the reason for this.

Italian women are notoriously hard to woo, and will resist all advances to appear "hard to get"

Italian men (As in, actually Italian, not people who think obnoxious behaviour can be excused by far-removed genetics) realise that it's way easier to try and get their balls emptied chasing slappers called Sharon from Essex

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 120 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A compounding factor is that (actual) Italian men are used to hard to get women, and their efforts are therefore scaled for such challenge. Never have I seen men try so fucking hard to chat up anything within sight than Italians.
I still vividly remember seeing a bunch of them moving through the nightclub crowd, chatting up women one after the other, failing, immediately moving on to the next one, etc.

(One could argue it's the other way around : Italian women have developed a resilience up to the challenge of the insatiable appetites and relentless advances of Italian men)

[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I went to Italy twice as a teenager with my soccer team. We were in a fresh air market in Herculaneum? I think and nearby traffic was stopped. We were all together, wearing our uniforms with a USA badge and the amount of young women who literally crawled out of stationary vehicles to come talk to us was mind blowing. It was heaven. Spanish steps when i was 16 was the closest thing this country bumpkin had been to heaven at that time in my life.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 10 points 9 months ago

Lived something maybe similar in south of France in the nineties.

I stayed though :-D

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I was just in Roma last year for two months. I assure you, I had several women hit on me while out and about once I became a common patron of the local bar. I’m 6’, American and only slightly chubby. But that’s all I have going for me in looks, just average. And they could care less that I was American (except one girl). I was still happily (more like blindly) married at the time, so not much happened (divorce was the ex’s ask 3 days after we returned) and was using the bar for good views and language immersion.

You want to know my thoughts on why women there play hard to get: according to a few chats the men are often underemployed or have near zero prospects to be better than above poverty. and according to one woman, a guy she dated just wanted her to cook, clean, and have babies; yep, he just wanted a new mamma with privileges.

So while I was married and my situation unique, I expect woo’ing an Italian woman to be not as hard as you say. I volunteer to go back and test this theory.

Oh, and a slam to my ex. I dedicated 10 years of our much longer marriage to do her family research so she could get her Italian by blood citizenship. That trip was our celebration of obtaining it and to review areas for buying a house. I will now and forever just consider her a Parmesan snorting fake. It was Facebook bragging rights and shit more.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

Seems to be the vibe with most women in these countries with supposed fertility crises,

If married family life didn't look like such a shit prospect financially, socially, mentally, really in any dimension, far less women would be holding out for obviously more wealthy potential matches like tourists who were able to afford a long distance ticket from another continent and ocean away.

Economist friend of mine has given me multiple rants about how the single biggest indicator of near future fertility trends is housing affordability, baby boom happened when subsidized home financing was backed the most by the government for example.

[–] WillFord27@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A tad unrelated, but I just want to say sorry about your ex. Hope you're doing better now.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Thanks. Hard at first but getting easier. Oddly, this post inspired me to think about going back and checking out the dating scene. Best of both worlds.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Hey, I feel you, man. To a crazy degree, in fact: with little difference except swapping out Italy for N. Ireland. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah, hit hard for sure. Now I’m stuck in a future where my EU goals force me to consider not dating till I’m there, or worse, be far more selective when dating local as now need to tell potential partners that I’m not staying in the USA. People think this sounds amazing, but it’s a whole life move.

I hope you’re healing.

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[–] AsAnAILanguageModel@sh.itjust.works 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is often a little depressing for Italian women when they move to Northern Europe, because the lack of people aggressively hitting on them makes them feel unattractive.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

By "agressive hitting on them" are we talking about catcalling or just men giving them compliments?

[–] freedumb@programming.dev 65 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Wait, do men constantly get inappropriately cat-called in Thailand?

[–] teft@lemmy.world 103 points 9 months ago

They're talking about sex tourism.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago

Haha yea. It's pretty great.

"Hey you're sexy"

"Haha thank you but I'm meeting a friend"

[–] zaphod@feddit.de 16 points 9 months ago

Never been to a red-light district?

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 54 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Bruh italy is just a fucking awesome place. Let people have their italy

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 57 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Bruh italy is just a fucking awesome place.

The problem is that Italy is also an awesome fucking place.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

I don't see how this constitutes a problem.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

I blame Ovid, little snot couldn't take being told no and wrote a tell all about the best places for exhibitionists to fuck in public, and it was all downhill from there.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I thought Thailand was for more.... unique tastes, rather then just getting your knob slobbed.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (4 children)

So tell me about Thailand.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lots of pedophiles go to rape kids. It's not the thing about transitioning. Although I think the OP was more referring to the general idea of sex tourism, not so much the specifics with Thailand.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The other reply was talking about people getting gender confirmation surgery in Thailand.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In the US, it's Miami and Vegas, respectively.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Ah come on, why not Boston? Lol

[–] johnnybravo@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Italy, here I come!

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I love this movie and I want to live it: Spring.

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've spent some time in both countries. Thailand is Thailand for women, too. More so than Italy as far as I can tell.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So they have lady...girls there?

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Well, none of the three (four?) times I went to Thailand did I explicitly go for the sex tourism (unless honeymooning [not with a Thai] there counts), but still, I saw a lot of it, and even had my bits groped backstage at a drag show (all in good humor), and I can't imagine there are many tastes they don't at least attempt to cater to. At least ten-fifteen years ago. I haven't been in some time, now.

[–] Cicraft@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What could the reasoning even be?

[–] teft@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cicraft@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] bonus_crab@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

no, its easier to get there.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Why has the US not simply imported the cheaper sex as the global marketplace demands?

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What do you think mail order brides are?

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Imported sex tourism

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