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  1. “The Intimidator” The Intimidator is an individual who steals energy by force. In order to get an energy boost, the Intimidator may be very loud, may yell, or may use violence. Ultimately, the Intimidator gets his or her energy by forcing people to pay attention to him or her.

This tactic draws more energy to the intimidator because when we are treated violently or yelled at, we cannot help but focus on the intimidator. All of this fearful focus passes our energy over to the Intimidator. This is the most aggressive of the control dramas.

Naturally, after a hostile interaction with an Intimidator, you will likely walk away feeling defeated and deflated. The Intimidator, however, feels empowered, boosted by the energy he or she has stolen from you.

  1. “The Interrogator” The Interrogator, like the Intimidator, also has an aggressive approach to stealing energy. However, the Interrogator does not rely on overt violence or intimidation, but rather uses excessive questioning and judgment in conversations.

When you are around an Interrogator, you will often feel highly criticized. The Interrogator will question your decisions, your motives, and your effectiveness. This strategy, in turn, keeps you sucked into the interaction, paying attention to the Interrogator.

In these interactions, you will feel the need to constantly explain yourself, and you will feel the need to justify your choices and actions. This extra attention sends your energy over to the Interrogator.

After spending prolonged time with an Interrogator, you will likely feel very drained, and walk away from the conversation feeling beaten down, even though the Interrogator did not use violence against you.

  1. “The Aloofs” This one here is my personal default control drama…

Aloof people do not use a hostile or aggressive approach in their ability to siphon energy from others. Instead, Aloofs rely on being vague and distant to capture attention and energy.

An Aloof is more likely to keep information from people. This, in turn, causes other people to be interested in them and approach them to “pry” information from them. It is a highly passive way of getting attention from other people.

“Playing hard to get” is the game of the Aloof. An Aloof will frequently leave you feeling that he or she is playing games with you, and must be chased.

  1. “The Poor Me” The Poor Me, like the Aloof, relies on a passive approach to gaining energy from others, but in a different way.

Poor Mes capture our attention by making us feel guilty and responsible for them. They often complain about their problems and issues in life, but not for the sake of getting solutions. Rather, the Poor Me complains for the sole purpose of gaining our attention.

When dealing with a Poor Me, we often feel like we have to “take care of” the Poor Me or we must help them in some way. We may feel we have to listen to his or her sob story over and over again, and that his or her problem is our fault somehow. This is how the Poor Me steals energy from others.

Snagged from this blog. https://raiseyourvibrationtoday.com/energy-work/the-control-dramas-celestine-prophecy/

The Celestine Prophecy has some great thoughts in it.

I guess I'm generally 3 and 4. The book talk about how each drama is created by the opposite.

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[–] OfficeMonkey@lemmy.today 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People are still reading The Celestine Prophecy?

[–] lemuria@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

~~Didn't we use copies of that book to alleviate the toilet paper shortages back in the day?~~

[–] NOSin@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

How do you define "stealing energy"? I took it as someone that disparages someone and making them feel like shit or inadequate in an exhausting way?

You're comment is brief so i don't know if you're trying to to say you have never experienced this feeling of being controlled or disparaged? In my understanding it's a natural and common part of life. Is that something you have never felt?

[–] NOSin@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The way this is written is clearly intended to speak about energy of people, and some that steal it, like you'd steal a candy on your coworker desk, for example.

Which, oof, I just can't take it seriously right from the start.

And then there's the gross generalization of people and how they act, but that's a more common trope, which can sometimes be partly true at least but meh.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I got that feeling, too, but I think it's just short-hand.

I took Aikido for a while, and it's common there to talk about energy and ki (it's in the name ffs). It can seem very woo-woo, but one day I had an epiphany: especially in a system like Aikido, it's all about leverage, centers of mass, gravity, and conservation of momentum: physics. But it's hard for most people to think about the physics of the thing while doing it real-time; it's less hard for them to visualize balls of energy and the flow of energy - and so you get ki. It's a short-hand.

Whether or not OP believes there's literal magic woo-woo sauce being transfered, it's a useful shorthand for how you might think about interactions, emotional states, and personality types. All of those personality profiling systems like Meyers-Briggs and DISC are built around concepts like this; they're trying to distill complex human behavioral psychology into tools that can be taught in two-day seminars and be used by people who aren't psychologists. It's like how high-school geometry is a kind of distilled, symplified physics: a lot of the simple volumetric equations are derivations of more complex solutions.

What OP is talking about is just another system of personality profiling, wrapped in mystical trappings to appeal to a certain mindset. If lighting candles and invoking rituals helps OP release negative and recover positive energy, then it's a useful tool for managing their emotional state. I mean, yeah, there are more healthy ways of thinking about the world, but as a shorthand, it could be worse.

[–] NOSin@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I see, it does make sense but there's an argument to be made about obscuring things like that (not in the case of aikido tho, here it's more of a "practical translation" of sort, and how it has always been passed down), which is why I said I can't take it seriously.

But you're right that if it profits OP, good for them, it's a bit like religion in that sense.

Thanks for the precision

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Interesting view.