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Trump’s ‘achilles heel’? Haley’s refusal to drop out infuriates ex-president (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 7 months ago by octavio_dingus@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 180 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Haley might be the smartest person in the GOP room right now. She got herself a gig in the Trump administration, but one that kept her in NYC and away from most of the crazies in the Trump Orbit. She had to promote Trump's foreign policy, of course, but had wide latitude in terms of how to do it. She notably had a hard line against Russia while we know Trump's history with Putin.

She was capable of doing her job without stepping in anything foul. And she got some one-on-one time with other high-level diplomats. If there is any dirt on Trump and his foreign business dealings, she has it.

Haley might make a horrible President, but she is not an election denier and she is not in Putin's pocket, so she already has a few advantages over most of the GOPniks these days.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 86 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If there is any dirt on Trump and his foreign business dealings, she has it.

Which is probably why Trump is implying that he has scandalous information about her.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 66 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Every accusation a confession. Always.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago

It's in the Dictator's Handbook I think. You can see the exact same thing in Russia's official communication too.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what she has on him.

Maybe it was her job to return Putin's boots after they'd been licked clean.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 60 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If I had to wager, her plan may be to stay in to the end despite losing every primary, just in case something goes south for Trump legally. Trouble is, he's going to savage her politically and many of his supporters will never vote for her

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trouble is, he’s going to savage her politically and many of his supporters will never vote for her

Sure. On the other hand...

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article284562880.html

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 7 months ago (3 children)

“The worst kept secret in politics is how badly the Democrats want to run against Donald Trump,” Haley said. “A Trump nomination is a Biden win and a Kamala Harris presidency … I defeat Biden handily.”

Yeah this is my understanding.

I don't really understand it (despite everyone explaining it n times) but if the GOP want to win all they need to do is field a young candidate.

[–] mriguy@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So it all comes down to “do Republicans want to win badly enough that they can suppress their racism and misogyny and vote for a woman of color”. Republicans like winning, but NEVER bet against racism and misogyny with that crew.

Also, a large fraction of the base WILL vote for Trump, and only Trump, whether he’s on the ballot or not, which hurts Haley. And there’s no evidence that the R’s have won over a single new voter since 2020, when they lost.

This all turns on how badly Biden does with HIS base, and that is currently pretty worrying. Democratic voters like unproductive petulance at least as much as Republican voters like racism and misogyny.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Biden definitely hasn't been unproductive. He just hasn't been loud enough about his accomplishments.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago

I think she's wrong though. If she were to win, Trump would run an an independent and split the wingnut vote.

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[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Shes got the Koch billion dollar donation network behind her. I think her plan is to make as much of their money as possible, which they are glad to give to have a possible president directly in their pocket.

[–] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It would be interesting to see Kamala Harris vs. Nikki Haley in a future election -- Two Indian-American woman vying for the US presidency.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

No thank you

[–] detectivesniffles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 7 months ago

interesting in the same way putting tobasco sauce in your eyes is interesting

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

No coronations pls. Let's have some actual primaries with policy. On both sides.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Haley has a much stronger chance of winning the presidency than Trump imo. She could win the independent vote, and Democrat voters may not turn out as much if she's the alternative.

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[–] CodeName@infosec.pub 117 points 7 months ago (3 children)

He wants her out so he can start fund raising as the de facto nominee. The other reason he wants her out is that it shows his weakness... even if she loses every race it shows that 30-40% of republican primary voters don't want him. She should stay in at least until Super Tuesday just to piss him off.

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

She should stay in until the general election. There is a non zero chance he has a stroke or an MI. He is not doing well.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

MI = myocardial infarction?

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[–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 11 points 7 months ago

Last I heard, her plan is exactly that:

Stay in until at least Super Tuesday.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 8 points 7 months ago

Yuuuuup. I think she's out raising him, too.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 53 points 7 months ago (1 children)

His Achilles heel is people actually opposing him.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

Especially when they dare to be women.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago

Yes, like all the other narcissists, people (in particular women) not doing what he wants really upsets him. This is nothing new.

[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 52 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This is smart. She’s probably just sitting and waiting for the Supreme Court ruling. By some rare chance that Supreme Court sides the Colorado ruling. Trump is immediately disqualified for running for President and she becomes the nominee by default

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It isn't quite that easy is it? Can't they simply rule that CO has the right to run their elections how they see fit without weighing in specifically on whether Trump should be disqualified?

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They have to walk a very fine line, because too far in either direction fucks them. Give the states too much power and they can kick off trump. Give the states too little power and Democrats can counterattack voter suppression

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[–] ira@lemmy.ml 39 points 7 months ago

Why would she drop out, she's the leading eligible candidate.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trump’s long list of Achilles heel’s include rain, wind, 3degree ramps, bottled water and vocabulary.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Bone spurs?

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 7 months ago

I don't like her, but I like her pissing him off.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I'm starting to think Trump said something personally to Haley that seriously pissed her off, because she must know she's not going to win.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 61 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I assume she's hoping to get the Republican nomination by default if Trump is disqualified.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This would be my dream (as a non-American).

I want to see if the deep red Republicans hate Democrats enough to vote for a woman, born to Indian immigrant parents just out of spite.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

because she must know she’s not going to win.

Winning isn't important. It's the free money. Colbert showed years ago how PAC money could be transformed into a personal slush fund.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At this point she can only win. Winning the nomination and the election this year is a long shot, that's certainly true. But whether Trump wins the election by whatever means and inevitably drops dead at some point or he wins the nomination but loses the election, she's in place as his obvious successor.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It is extremely unlikely that Haley can pull a comeback and win the nomination the conventional way. But there is a non-zero chance that Trump will not be able to accept the nomination, because he may be ineligible/incarcerated/deceased. If that happens, the Republican convention will be a shitshow. (It might turn out to be the real Civil War II if next week is a dud). However, Haley would be going in with a position of strength as the only other candidate with delegates.

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 7 months ago

Might be early preparation for a 2028 run. She'll be a familiar face who was "strong enough to go toe to toe with Trump" or something. I dunno much about political calculus.

Plus yeah, this might also be payback to get him tilted.

[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Haley can sue for malicious intent and defamation of character, after a few weeks of Trump being infuriated.

Now, we know how much it takes for Trump to shut his trap.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’m hoping that some Dem billionaires are funding her, just to annoy the shit outta Donnie Dipshit.

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That is sort of happening minus the Dem part. She's got the Koch money machine behind her. Which is disgusting and should make clear she's controllable.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would laugh out loud to see her goad Donnie into a heart attack live on stage.

But I wouldn’t vote for her in a million years.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I would vote for her in a second if the choice were between her and Donnie.

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

He wanted her to drop put and we all know he hates when women tell him 'no.'

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Let them fight; even if she gets the nomination, the GOP isn't voting for a woman.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago

Given the polling she's not going to win the primary.... unless something unprecedented happens. Something that's never happened in a primary before, like for example, the front-runner gets convicted of a crime during the campaign.

Which I suspect is the reason she's staying in.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I question my humanity when I enjoy demented orange grandpa screaming in rage.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 12 points 7 months ago

Nah, he forfeited his humanity decades ago. Enjoy all you want.

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