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I read translations of Chinese fanfics that have a lot of obscure idioms.
I can't find the meaning of these idioms on the internet.

Maybe there are some people here who are experts in this?

The idiom from the title is one character's reflection on the people who defeated their enemies.

This character thought, "They think they're strong, but they're like the monkey that jumped out to pluck the peach."

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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 63 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Oh god, I wish I hadn't read those descriptions.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 13 points 10 months ago

They were written by someone who's exposure to anything martial - and probably anything more strenuous than making a trip to mom's cupboard for more Cheetos - has been through film.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, that’s some Mortal Kombat shit

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

You've never pulled someone's dick off in a fight through their trousers?

Tell me again how you know how to fight πŸ™„

[–] Slatlun@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No kind of expert on the idiomatic use, but the literal translation makes it feel like the monkey is going after something without a plan for where to land. I would expect it to indicate impulsivity

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Jumping from the branch, to where the peach is hanging, without anything to land on.

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 14 points 10 months ago

It has a lot of meanings.

The oldest one I know of is that of Monkey King, who in the ancient story stole and ate the peaches of immortality. He did this without any plan; in some versions he was hungry and didn't understand that it would make him immortal. This act of spontaneity also inconvenienced the peach owner, who had intended to serve the peaches to those who were worthy of them.

Since then various martial arts moves and stories and so on were named after that one little bit of the story, usually to showcase a combination of spontaneity and strength.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Mistral 8Γ—7B that I have in front of me now says "A monkey that jumped out to pluck a peach" is often translated as "to jump the gun" in English, and refers to someone that is too eager to take an immediate but inappropriate step.

~~It also says the idiom is from the classical text "The Analects of Confucius, Book 12"~~

This is a smart offline open source model, but like everything AI, - citation needed as this is not a valid primary source.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Some Google searching shows that the monkey King in "Journey to the West" ate peaches that gave him immortality. Google also shows a martial arts move where you grab the opponent's testicles.

It's probably a chengyu, but I don't know what story it's from.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Some people need to watch some Monkey. It's a 70s TV adaptation of the "Journey to the west".

After school viewing for me in the UK.

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