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[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The UK really shouldn't talk shit in the food department πŸ˜‚

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mate tikka masala is an "Indian" dish that was literally invented in England.

We appropriated all the shit from all over the world, then made it more universally good.

Meanwhile a fucking "bland" pie is wholesomely awesome comfort food, when done right.

If anything, it's our close ties to America that screw us over. We've taken their commercialised factory production and applied it to our stuff, and often the cost cutting has ruined it - just like American food. But, sometimes, we manage to make golden gems like a Gregg's sausage bean and cheese pasty.

Also, US (and Canadian) streaky bacon is shit. Back bacon - specifically "dry cured" back bacon (which is a protected term and must be done by hand instead of factory brine injected processing) - is the ultimate in piggy goodness.

But even factory back bacon is better than streaky, streaky is just the fat, while back has a chunk of meat to it. Harder to cook, but when you do it just right (render the fat at a low temp, then whack it up to cook the rest) it's bloody divine. Professional kitchens just do it in an oven, but if you carefully lay the bacon on top of one another in a frying pan, such that the fat touches the pan while the meat sits on top (except for the first piece, which is special) you can render the fat out at a low temp and then fry it perfectly all spread out. The goal is crispy fat, but tender meat.

Pigs won't fly, especially not in the US, but a good bacon bap in the UK can give you wings.

And I haven't even started talking about fresh little pork pies from small local Yorkshire butchers.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We have every culture's food here. Ha.

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Haggis pakora is fucking lush.

Edit: we don't have everything, though, and post-Brexit our imported fruit is shit. I haven't found an orange (or derivative) that is worth buying, literally since the fateful day in 2019. A good orange should smell tasty through the peel, all our supermarket citrus smells (and tastes) stale now.

Edit2: and strawberry drinks are fucking rare

[–] flamingos@ukfli.uk 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

True, British food is so far ahead that any comparison is just plain unfair.

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Lmao holding deep fried scraps up as a shining achievement in cuisine is NOT helping your case

[–] flamingos@ukfli.uk 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let me guess, you're one of those weirdos who only enjoys food that has "flavour" πŸ™„

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's when the bread sandwich comes in handy!

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Excuse me, I prefer something with a little flavor, like a toast sandwich.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Let's not go over the top with this. There is such a thing as flavour overload!

[–] NOSin@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Any Brit defending their cuisine is automatically a lunatic.

Source : I'm a french cook.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The best British chefs were trained in France

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 3 points 8 months ago

The best French restaurants are in London.

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago

Says someone who's never actually had scraps from a good place.

Granted, post covid and rising costs, it's much harder to find such a place. Even looking for the ones with good puns for their names doesn't work - "The Plaice To Be" or "The Codfather" aren't what they used to be.

[–] faceula@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Omg change the record.... what next our teeth? Jeezuz. Dated tropes wheeled out again. Where are you from? Let's do your country next? Yawn. Just be nice. It's freaking easy.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

As if Europeans are ever nice about what happens here in America.

As the Brits say: "jog on"

[–] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

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[–] faceula@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Some do, many do not. Reductionist.

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 8 points 8 months ago

Pardon my French, you dirty cunt.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's like the kid in that meme where both paths are dark. On one side is mashed peas and on the other is literal cooked snails.

Edit: accuracy, I don't think you'd mix the mashed peas with beans at least

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Both of those are quite nice if done well tbh

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't doubt it, but you'd need to do something incredible to mashed peas to make me prefer them that way over non-mashed (and not overcooked) peas seasoned with salt and pepper

Never tried the snails, maybe one day but I've never had the opportunity

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You know they are a different type of pea (marrowfat), right? Mushy peas aren't made with mashed garden peas.

Snails are nice, they are usually cooked in garlic butter so if you like that you'll enjoy them!

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's good to know on both dishes. I didn't know mushy peas were made with a different kind, and from what other commenters said the snails might actually not be that bad. Certainly no less strange than eating ~~ocean bugs~~ lobster or crab if you really think about it.

If I'm ever in an opportunity to try either I'd definitely give them a go at least once. My initial comment was, while uneducated, mostly a light riff on the local cuisines. I feel like I maybe should have deleted it when I saw it was to a UK-specific sub, but I guess it turned into a learning experience so it's not all bad in hindsight!

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

To be honest, if you're in a chippy and you only have a chance to have one side with your food you should get curry sauce instead of mushy peas, it's the best!

You definitely shouldn't have deleted it, nobody is going to take offence at a joke about food. Just wouldn't want you to miss out!

[–] Mechaguana@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Its actually really good, and really fatty for some reason. Served with red garlic and parsley, it tastes like meaty butter, or (slightly softer though) octopus without the fishy taste.

But of course it has to be fresh.

[–] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

mashed peas

Do you mean mushy peas, love?

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

There's a lot in British Cuisine that I would skip, but I could really go for some fish and chips.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When I worked in france the cafeteria called it "fish and ships"

[–] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

The French just can't help but be terrible people.