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[–] 6buck6satan6@lemmy.world 137 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Too many people do not understand the difference between weather and climate.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 112 points 9 months ago (3 children)

For being so smart, we are so dumb

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 55 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not just that we're stupid. We're also selfish.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Many are proud of their stupidity.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

And their selfishness.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Huge difference between raw intellectual capacity and exercised utility.

You can have a 10 gallon bucket, but it'll only carry that much water if you fill it.

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[–] Doombot1@lemmy.one 104 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The solution to global warming, then, is clearly to just set up a massive ring of fans all pointed in the same direction in a ring around the North Pole, to keep the jet stream going

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 69 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Not the worst geoengineering idea.

Not a good idea, but I've heard worse

[–] Doombot1@lemmy.one 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)
[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Outer space is a lot higher up than Niagara Falls,^[citation ^needed]

Lmao

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This will also fix the wind turbines using up the all the wind!

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

We should point those fans at the wind turbines so we can at least gather the power from fans! Why waste it!

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[–] Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world 69 points 9 months ago (3 children)

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/understanding-arctic-polar-vortex

As of 2021 the science was not settled on the ice loss as a cause or an affect. This article goes into both theories.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's a bit like the investigation into whether lethal bear attacks are because of their teeth or their claws - probably really interesting, but not critical to the question of avoiding the bear.

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[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I was led to believe it's both. Global warming causes ice loss which contributes to global warming which causes more ice loss which contributes to global warming which causes more ice loss ...

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

Don't worry, the Earth will heal >!once we're gone!<

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If those people could read they'd be very upset.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

I just hope we’re not seeing the start of a shutdown of the North Atlantic current, which is likely what led to the Younger Dryas ice age, which marked a dramatic climate shift and widespread extinction event over just a couple of decades:

The change was relatively sudden, took place over decades, and resulted in a decline of temperatures in Greenland by 4–10 °C (7.2–18 °F), and advances of glaciers and drier conditions over much of the temperate Northern Hemisphere. A number of theories have been put forward about the cause, and the hypothesis historically most supported by scientists is that the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation, which transports warm water from the Equator towards the North Pole, was interrupted by an influx of fresh, cold water from North America into the Atlantic.

Right now, it’s looking like that may have already started: Study: Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation. If that’s the case, things will become very hot and then abruptly freeze, not over the course of a century, but virtually overnight.

e: better link

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The thing I keep thinking about, and I feel like I've never been able to properly communicate, is that the machines our society runs on are built to run in a certain temperature range.

The 2021 texas winter fiasco was a perfect demonstration of what happens when we try to run a society's machinery outside of it's expected temperature range. Yes, the ERCOT goofballs were trying to save money by narrowing that expected operating range because "It never gets that cold" and "It never gets that hot", but my badly articulated point still stands - a system was made to operate in a temperature range outside of it's capability, and it started to fail. They were minutes away from losing very expensive and hard to replace equipment. What we don't want is for one of the more competently-run power grids in the world to start to buckle due to temperatures, because the same thing that happened in texas could happen on a larger scale.

And that's just talking about the power grid. Anything with a heat exchanger in it, including your car and air conditioner and all the refrigeration that is needed to keep everyone fed, is designed to run in a certain temperature range, and will stop working if you run it outside of that range for too long.

But wait, we can just design stuff to run in a wider temperature range! We certainly can. But we would have to redesign everything that moves heat around.

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[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 14 points 9 months ago

When you stop and actually think about our situation you realise how thin our operating margins are, we are at the mercy of whatever the planet does and our safety is subject to immediate dismissal should the conditions change. Worse of course are the random cosmic whims which could wipe us out instantly at any time e.g. comets, the sun going weird, etc.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Earth's just gotta drink more if its stream is weak. I mean that's what I do

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We should also pour cranberry juice into the ocean.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

HEY!!!! Get your science and facts out of here!

~ ~Places fingers in ears and closes eyes~ ~ laalalalalalalal

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

reference

I was trying to look up why less polar ice causes shifts in the jet stream and this article cites an active debate around our understanding on this.

The tweet does not really address that point, and makes the cause and effect sound definitive.

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[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Y'all ready to be gouged for survival items until money becomes irrelevant?

P.S. 'A Capitalist Apocalypse' would be a fun title for a political comedy song.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll start writing that play. We won't even have to splurge on the stage as the wasteland will provide a natural setting.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Even as the US hits record setting lows, the temperature of the planet as a whole remains above average. If it's -20°F across the entire US, how hot must the rest of the planet be?

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[–] JustinAngel@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I'm a climate idiot. Does this somehow relate to ice ages, I wonder?

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ice ages typically happen due to very low insolation or the ability of solar energy to reach the surface of our planet. Insolation is a term often used when describing how much energy a solar panel can create.

Right now we have a big problem with too many greenhouse gases, which exacerbate the insolation we already have. It is heating our oceans rapidly, thus causing the break up of ice sheets in the Arctic and Antarctica. At some point the oceans won't be able to absorb the heat we are receiving and air temperatures will begin to rise as well. Equilibrium. Hence Venus by Tuesday.

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

The titty of the polar vortex sags ever southward.

[–] Nei@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

New next level science unlocked.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

So that's why that is

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