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[–] IBSshitposter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 88 points 8 months ago (2 children)

dawg you can be trans for funsies, gender can eat my entire ass. everyone is better off when we aren't gender-policing every goddam thing

[–] watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But then who will we sell pink hammers to??

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Me, I like pink, it's such a strong color it doesn't need to be in the rainbow club

[–] outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hello, I would like to buy your entire shipment of pink hammers

Pink from Pink Floyd: The Wall movie

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 8 months ago

This, a hundred times over.

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 51 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Being trans is sufficient for a diagnosis of gender dysphoria in the DSM, so yes.

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The DSM used to classify homosexuality as a mental illness. Are you saying it was until they changed it?

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They have published new versions over the years. They're on version 5 by now. Plenty of things have changed.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The argument is that you shouldn't base your position of acceptance on whatever the DSM says because they're demonstrably very fallible, but rather you should use your own arguments instead.

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

The DSM is fallible. Many of the diagnostic criteria will change in future versions of the DSM. In the future we are going to learn that some aspects of the current manuals are wrong, just as we have for previous ones.

But the people who will find those errors and make those updates will be, and have been, researchers and mental health experts who work in the field and have relevant experience. There's no way that I, as some rando on the internet will have anything insightful to say on the subject. If either of us come to a conclusion that contradicts the DSM, it's far more likely to be we are mistaken in our uninformed opinions.

Regardless, the DSM-5-tr is the manual that is CURRENTLY used by mental health professionals to diagnose mental disorders. My description of the DSM criteria is as accurate as is practical for a single sentence sarcastic comment in response to a meme.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It is possible to accept people, use preferred pronouns and names etc. while also being of the opinion of "technically you're not trans but enby" or something. Some people just have a fetish for precisely defined taxonomies, don't kink-shame.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Sometimes things change, even institutions.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ultimately it's none of my business. It's between the trans person and their doctor, as long as they're following best practices and the plan of care is agreed to by the patient and the doctor, I'm good. I don't pretend to know better than someone living that reality. I wish them well and hope their transition goes well and they can find happiness in their body.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

...they can find happiness in their body.

See I think that's the most important part and you hit the nail on the head. I transitioned 20 years ago and it was a lot different then. Nowadays everyone has the freedom to just be themselves, and people are getting too hung up on labels and pronouns. If everyone just pursued their own happiness and comfort in their own body, while ignoring the expectations put upon them by social media and society, they'd be a lot happier.

It's like these younger folks feel like there's a check list of things they need to do to "be trans". My brother in Christ just be yourself, and if you wanna call yourself trans in the process then more power to you. There's no rules to happiness beyond not hurting anyone else.

Tl;Dr "An ye harm none, do what ye will."

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 months ago

Thank you... Omg I really needed this comment today 💙

[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I've been feeling this way a lot lately. Especially with the labels and and pronouns part. I'll call anyone what they want, and I'm not gonna beleive they're not that, but some things are getting a bit ridiculous.

Like not to long ago I learned a new term, I don't remember what it is, but it was basically a word to describe somes sexuality when you don't know what their sexuality is. Like someone asks Bob what sexuality Greg is, and they don't know for certain.

But A) The term used an acronym for not/non and put it at the beginning of asexual, so it was not not asexual... or just sexual... I guess.

B) If someone asks, you can just say you don't know. We don't need a word to describe someone's sexuality as "I don't know."

I'm trying not to sound like an old person, and I do get why a lot of terms are uses. But it seems like every few months I hear about a new one, and it just seems like someone made it just to have a new term. I like that people are exploring and we are learning more

Other posts I've seen are things like "Can get guys/lesbians be gay guys/lesbians if they like non-binary people?"... Sure, why not? If someone wants to still use the term gay or lesbian, cool. If they think that puts them more towards bi to an extent, cool.

"Bi is transphobic, and if you would date trans people you're actually pan" Or they just grew up with the term bi, and that's how they identify. It's not an issue.

I'm just waiting for the day when I get called transphobic for being gay, which means I only date men and not trans men, so that I can point out that trans men are men, and we don't need to make it more complicated than just gay.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree with nearly all of your post except "being gay, which means I only date men and not trans men". That's completely valid that it is your preference, but many men identify as gay and do date trans men. They don't need to change their label or use another word to express that they are open to transmen.

[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, I'm not denying those men exist. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if some people start saying that like they do about people identifying as bi.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

Oh I understand you now

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

before i was officially out, the first person i told was my mechanic... and they brought it up. and you know what they did? they asked if i went by a different name and they changed it and called me that with the new pronouns

basically what im saying is that if that complete stranger can do it anyone can so stop being a dick to trans people, transphobes

[–] Chiarottide@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How were you so intimate with your mechanic? Do you drive a Range Rover?

[–] mercury@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 months ago

maybe a volkswagen

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Man I wish I had time to worry about shit like this. Like get a fucking hobby if all you can think about is other people living their lives.

One time a truscum told me "I can't me Transphobic, I'm trans, you're stupid" she was incorrect, and she was one of the biggest transphobes I ever met (she insulted many trans women claiming they "sound like men" and that they "weren't even trying" what an absolute asshole she was SMH.

[–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The first rule of being trans is to always have fun :)

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 8 months ago

That's why they call it trans B-)

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

We get a little silly :3

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Imagine trying to fit the infinite variations of self into only 2 boxes. Be yourself, the world is fake.

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago
[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Kids sexuality, who they choose to fuck and how they want to look, just isn't anyone else's business, always has been a perfect signal later for broken toxic people, and now right wing bigots won't shut up about it. Grow up. Yes I am telling an entire political party to grow up. It's been an issue too long, if you really can't stop your poisoned voter base and media followers to stop being this cringe, you just have to start over then. Disassociate with them. It's over, this is such an annoying childish issue to be hearing over and over and I don't even live in your country. Please for the love of God stop allowing wounded babies to politicise kids sexuality. It's so tiring that none of you stop the fucking madness and approach normal political discussion when this happens. Just don't engage. Say "no" to the bigot and engage another more grownup in debate instead.