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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Utter bullshit and a goddamn disgrace. If any country needs and deserves our help right now, it's Ukraine.

[–] ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] McDropout@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

They’re Arabs, they doesn’t matter /s

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago

What a shame the inaction of one generation is going to mean eventually the younger generations becoming Cannon fodder again due to this burying the head in the sand and giving Putin just what he needs to keep going beyond Ukraine.

The older generation aren't fans of the younger generations as it is so this should show them /s

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

GoP Cult blaming Biden in 3....2...1...

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


American military aid for Ukraine has now “ground to a halt”, the White House said on Thursday amid bickering in Congress over a package of support for both Israel and Kyiv.

Ukraine’s military fears Vladimir Putin’s forces could break through its defensive lines and secure victory for Russia within days if the US does not commit to more aid, with intense fighting still taking place around the key industrial town of Avdiivka, despite the onset of the country’s bitter winter.

The Republican lawmakers have sought to justify their opposition by complaining that allocating funds for Ukraine does not benefit the US directly and by suggesting that there are no controls on how the money at issue would be spent.

However, Shalanda Young, the White House budget director, pointed out in her letter that Mr Biden’s request for supplemental appropriations would also pump more than $50bn into US-based defence manufacturing, including bolstering capabilities for building air defence systems, tactical vehicles, and artillery shells made in numerous different states.

This comes amid intelligence reports showing Russia has been receiving increasing military support from North Korea and Iran for its continuing invasion of Ukraine.

The Biden administration has repeatedly sought to make the case that the Kremlin has become reliant on North Korea, as well as Iran, for the arms it needs to fight its war against Ukraine and has disclosed intelligence findings that it says show as much.


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[–] small44@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Israel is more important to US than Ukraine

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Let Russia take Ukraine and have a decade to learn from their mistakes and rebuild. The flyers dropped over the United States of USSR and United Kingdom of USSR will be cut out in the shape of a tiger. Putin will chuckle.

Dropping aid to Ukraine is the worst possible move we can make.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The US is more important to Israel than Ukraine.*

FTFY

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine needs to rebuild its own armaments industry. The Russians are content to turtle up. This is good, provided Ukraine uses this lull to build a war economy. The US is the most fickle and unreliable ally. Ukraine must be able to stand alone.

[–] Jwin@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

In theory you are right, but in practice it's damn near impossible to do this while fighting a world power. Only hope is support from allies.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's honestly insane that Israel is getting weapons while Ukraine isn't.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even if somebody agrees with Israel: they have a large and modern army, plus some nukes for backup. Let them sort their own shit out, while focusing support on a country that absolutely needs it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

they have a large and modern army

They're hemorrhaging money and manpower to fight this war, particularly in the wake of the Houthi's shutting down travel through the Red Sea. If the US were to take a hard line against Israel (as Reagan did when Israel launched a war against Lebanon back in the 80s), the Israelis would be forced to back down for fear of exhausting their supplies too quickly.

Let them sort their own shit out, while focusing support on a country that absolutely needs it.

The US has never prioritized needs over political expediency. And the Israel lobby has far more pull in the American Congress than anything Zelensky is fielding.

Failing to support Ukraine means you're a bog standard Republican. Failing to support Israel means you're going to lose your job in either party.

[–] McDropout@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Israel is more important to the states than Ukraine (or Russia’s proximity to NATO)

[–] Astarii_Tyler@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ukraine produces 25% of europes food and 70% of the world industrial neon, which is needed for chip production. A famine in europe and giving control over chip production for the next 5 years to russia and china is a lot worse than losing our middle east stronghold.

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No. It's republicans that are blocking Ukraine aid.

[–] McDropout@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How much money have you guys been sending to Israel throughout the last 2 decades alone vs. how much money was sent to Ukraine. You guys have money to support genocidal apartheid maniacs (including israeli terrorist settlers) but cut funds when it comes to Ukraine.

But yes, blame the republicans. Woo! Republicans.

How much money was sent to Israel during Biden’s administration, Obama’s administration?

Woo! Republicans.

But remember, vote blue no matter who ❤️

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Republicans are actively blocking any funding for Ukraine. Meanwhile funding for Israel is passing through the house easily. It is literally their fault.

Stop being a dipshit.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Republicans are actively blocking any funding for Ukraine.

I don't even think this is strictly true. Republicans simply don't have a majority to pass a budget of any kind, and no one in the party is willing to compromise with the Democrats to pass a bipartisan bill. Even when the GOP has all three branches, they struggled to pass anything. They're just bad at legislating.

Ukraine is collateral damage.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu -1 points 10 months ago

That's the trick of the GOP... literally all they do is obstruct and destroy any sort of progress the Democrats do end up making lol.

[–] ThompsonJr@lemmus.org -4 points 10 months ago