I'd like to request recommendations (spoiler free!) for games where you need to make choices, take sides, kill or not kill someone, follow or do not follow orders, but where the consequences actually matter - and most importantly, where the choices aren't "obviously good choice vs obviously bad choice".

Give me games where I can choose to side with one kingdom or another, but there's no clear moral high ground, or where I need to decide to save someone dear to me at the cost of innocent lives. I do not want things like "save all the children and get the happy ending and make flowers grow" versus "kill everybody and everything blows up and the world gets all its water replaced by acid".

What games fit this requirement?

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[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

2077 cyberpunk only plays out badly

[–] sealhaslupus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

technically on par for a dystopian game

[–] gogosempai@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

Detroit: Become Human fits the bill perfectly! It's a great game with some of the hardest choices you'll ever make in a game period.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

"Passage" is a very short one. But the choices matter.

[–] daniyeg@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

i'm gonna blatantly disregard your "but where the consequences actually matter" and recommend most of telltale's games (The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us are the better ones).

besides them and the suggestion of others i would also recommend Tyranny. great CRPG made by Obsidian.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I made the choice in GTA that let me continue the free roam unhindered despite it not being what was best in game.

[–] MechanicalJester@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Just answer our increasingly difficult questions.

Trolley problem: One track is one person, the other is 10

Next level

Okay well now the one person is your mom, and the 10 are 1 year olds you don't know

Next level

Okay the one person is your best friends mom and the 10 are young kids from your immediate or extended family

Next level

Okay the one person would cure cancer tomorrow, and the 10 are friends or family

...

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The trolley problem is easy all of these questions are easy

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 1 points 10 months ago

Level 1 - one person Level 2 - the kids Level 3 - best friend's mom Level 4 - cancer cure guy

None of it matters in the long run anyway, so might as well pick the choices that affect you directly. Toughest one in this is the best friend's mom definitely.

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[–] Nanners@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I’m not sure I’ve seen it posted here, a little older, but the TellTale Walking Dead games are killer. You make full choices that affect your game later. Tons of fun, not a ton of action gameplay but the stories told are next level IMO

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sometimes Always Monsters

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago

I thought Thromebreaker: The Witcher Tales had some extremely tough ones. They also heavily effect your gameplay in that many times they add or remove a character from your party. I had built a deck in that game that relied heavily on a character. That character then did something morally reprehensible and I decided to banish them. That removed them from my deck, too, so I had to come up with a new strategy after that.

Fun game if you can get into it. Almost every choice is extremely morally gray and often feels like there is no good choice at all.

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