It's been an unsupportable business model from the beginning. Other than android, everything Google makes is easily replaceable by some other product. They don't have a monopoly like any of their competition that will easily sustain them. I honestly don't believe the majority of Google Engineers actually do anything innovative anymore as most of those people left the company when their pet projects were shut down in the first round of cost cutting measures (around the time Google became Alphabet).
this post was submitted on 11 Jan 2024
205 points (96.4% liked)
Technology
34894 readers
651 users here now
This is the official technology community of Lemmy.ml for all news related to creation and use of technology, and to facilitate civil, meaningful discussion around it.
Ask in DM before posting product reviews or ads. All such posts otherwise are subject to removal.
Rules:
1: All Lemmy rules apply
2: Do not post low effort posts
3: NEVER post naziped*gore stuff
4: Always post article URLs or their archived version URLs as sources, NOT screenshots. Help the blind users.
5: personal rants of Big Tech CEOs like Elon Musk are unwelcome (does not include posts about their companies affecting wide range of people)
6: no advertisement posts unless verified as legitimate and non-exploitative/non-consumerist
7: crypto related posts, unless essential, are disallowed
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
They pretty much have a monopoly with YouTube.
Supposedly a deeply unprofitable one. Which is a huge chunk of why no real competition has surfaced.
It's one thing to set up a proverbial store with prices so low you choke out the competition. It's another thing to essentially pay your customers to come in, either by literally paying them or by providing a service that they pay below actual cost for.
Supposedly a deeply unprofitable one.
That's probably why it's getting enshittified so quickly.
And search
Yeah, but that one is replaceable if people want too.
Everything is replaceable if people want to. The problem is the inertia it takes to substitute it
YouTube is really hard to replace without the money of a multi billion company.
Video is hard and attracting creators is even harder.
So is a good search engine. As much as I love DuckDuckGo and daily drive it the results are much worse than google’s
No, you can switch to a different search engine right now and the results will be perfectly fine. I use DDG exclusively.
What video platform can you switch to that has even remotely close to the amount of content as YouTube? (Pornhub doesn't count)
Twitch, but that comes with its own problems.
It's also different as there only a few privileged channels get to keep their content forever. A lot of channels can only keep it for 2 weeks or 2 months based on their status, and a lot of creators upload their content to youtube to keep it for longer
The only benefit I get from google over ecosia or duckduckgo is I can't call a company or view their menu immediately from the search page after looking them up.
I don’t leave in an English speaking country and sometimes the results are not ideal tbh
Hopefully the alternatives catch on to that and improve outside of the English speaking world. Using Brave has been a dream for me, the results are almost always better than Google.
i personally refrain from brave, because A, those whole crypto shennenigans and what not and second, the browser is chromium based and i use firefox and i haven't bothered to put brave search yet
Copilot/Bing Search might put a big dent in that in the future. People will just ask an AI instead of "googling".
Other than android, everything Google makes is easily replaceable by some other product
They built their entire culture on teams building new products. Which means a team would build something cool, get promoted, and leave that project. Who wants to join the maintenance side of things when all the promotions are being handed out to the ones who make new products?
It's a broken system and best of luck Google!
These layoffs didn't happen because Google is out of money. It's insanely profitable.
They don’t have a monopoly like any of their competition that will easily sustain them.
Erm, you think Bing is a serious competitor? Aside from search (91.54% of the global search market), Google is part of an ads duopoly that is only stalled by walled gardens like Amazon, TikTok, Wal*Mart, and the various entertainment companies. There's also Google Maps, used by 77% of users between 16 and 64, and their biggest non-iOS competitor is Waze, which Google also owns. For email, 75% of the US email market is dominated by Gmail. As for the user-generated media market, YouTube absolutely dominates that. The closest competitor (Twitch, A.K.A. Amazon) is far behind.
As for what Google engineers do, it's mostly not rip-things-up-and-start-over innovation since these are all very mature markets with billions of users. Instead it's small tweaks that generate hundreds of millions in savings or additional revenue.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Google just confirmed to The Verge that it’s eliminated “a few hundred” roles in each of these divisions, meaning Google has confirmed layoffs of around a thousand employees on Wednesday alone, if we use a reasonable definition of “few”.
We asked Google spokesperson Courtenay Mencini to say if this was the complete and total number of job cuts in this round of layoffs, but she stopped replying at that point, only confirming existing layoff reports at 9to5Google and Semafor.
The New York Times reported on the engineering team layoffs too.
When we spoke to Mencini earlier this evening about the Google hardware layoffs, she did not mention the other layoffs — but did write that “a number of our teams made changes to become more efficient and work better” and that “some teams are continuing to make these kinds of organizational changes, which include some role eliminations globally.”
If so, though, it won’t work: The Verge is among the news outlets that takes a hard line against planted information, and we pride ourselves on finding the bigger picture.
Parent firm Alphabet employed 182,381 employees as of September 30th, 2023, so roughly a thousand job cuts would only be around half a percent of the company’s total.
The original article contains 360 words, the summary contains 206 words. Saved 43%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
"Same procedure as last year?"
"Same procedure as every year!"