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Jay Ashcroft flopped when faced with the most dreaded predicament amongst grandstanding blowhards: a follow-up question

Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft’s attempt to justify his ludicrous threat to have President Joe Biden removed from the state’s electoral ballot spiraled into chaos over the most basic of questions: “How so?”

During a Monday interview with CNN’s Boris Sanchez, the Republican was asked how he justified his threats to have Biden removed from the state’s ballot in retaliation for recent attempts to remove Trump from state ballots on grounds that his actions in the aftermath of the 2020 election constitute insurrection. The constitutionality of such a removal will soon be reviewed by the Supreme Court.

“What would then be your justification for removing Joe Biden from the ballot in Missouri. Has he engaged in your mind in some kind of insurrection?” Sanchez asked.

“There have been allegations that he’s engaged in insurrection,” Ashcroft replied. He was then met with the most dreaded predicament amongst grandstanding blowhards: a follow-up question.

“How so?” Sanchez asked, prompting Ashcroft to demand that Sanchez stop interrupting him. “You can’t say something like that and not back it up,” Sanchez countered.

“You interrupted me before I could back it up,” a flustered Ashcroft complained. “Are you scared of the truth?”

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[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 90 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Isn’t Missouri the show me State? Is this fucktard going to show any evidence of insurrection or just blather on about how other governors have made the claim of insurrection against Biden? My god Republicans are stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid to the fucking core.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 47 points 10 months ago (15 children)

That's why they attack education constantly. Education prevents conservatives.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Please stop assigning stupidity to things that are openly and brazenly malicious.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

He's brazenly malicious and stupid. You can be both. He is both.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

To be fair, he did look genuinely shocked about the job of Secretary of State.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

The problem here is the ambiguity of "Republicans". If you mean politicians, then yes, they're malicious AF and often pretty competent about it. If you mean their voters, then most of them are just abysmally stupid (and arrogant enough to think they're smart).

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Missouri is one of the last and proudest slave states (followed only by Arkansas, Texas, and Florida - go figure?). They routinely slaughtered Kansans for their refusal to brutalize and own other humans. Rush Limbaugh is from there. Ferguson police just shoot black people for sport and openly laugh about it. It's an infected polyp on the anus of racist America with some of the worst, most hateful people scowling and lurching around in it.

That this chud would be representing the people of Missouri is not a surprise at all.

They do have some lovely scenery though, and there are a few decent people there as well. Just - on the political front, you can pretty well expect when you hear Missouri it won't be good news.

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[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

No. Missouri is the "blow me" state.

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[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 89 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The follow-up question was literally "What accusations are you making against Biden to justify removing him from the ballot?"

Like dude, you can literally make up anything and your base would eat it up. You couldn't even do that. What a moron, and he'll still lose almost zero support from his base because they didn't actually pay attention.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Ashcrofts have always been smooth-brained. But Jay's is so smooth that quarks could ice skate on it.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Oh, wow. I hadn’t put 2 and 2 together that this is John Ashcroft’s kid. Chip off the old block it appears. 😂

[–] tacomama@leminal.space 2 points 10 months ago

Let the eagle soar!

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 14 points 10 months ago

you can literally make up anything and your base would eat it up

They know.

They do. Every day.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It shouldn't be all that surprising that John Ashcroft's son has a total lack of imagination and creativity.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Like dude, you can literally make up anything and your base would eat it up.

The reason doesn't matter. This is purely a tit-for-tat because Trump fell off the ballot in Colorado, Maine, and... I guess now Nevada? His base will still eat it up. Nobody who regularly votes for him is going to see the back end of this interview, just the headline, because they all think CNN stands for "Communist News Network".

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The GOP can never actually explain their reasoning when people push back usually.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 30 points 10 months ago

Almost like they have no reasoning!

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 60 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You can’t tell me this clown is not inbred. Or at least the progeny of some sort of greasy-haired weasel creature.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 76 points 10 months ago (2 children)

His dad was afraid of the nipples on statues.

I miss the days when he was the most embarrassing Attorney General J. Ashcroft in the country.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I thought this was the same guy and was thinking he aged well

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

His dad was afraid of the nipples on statues.

In his dad's defense, you gotta be careful with those or you'll put your eye out.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

The venn diagram of boobs and Red Ryder BB guns has more overlap than I would have guessed.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I knew asscraft was involved with this somehow.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

OOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Right!

Well fucking hell, Missouri.

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[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago

Nature does in fact make mistakes.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

Wow. The look of utter and genuine surprise at how our government functions is absolutely priceless.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 48 points 10 months ago

What a snowflake. He literally whines about being interrupted.

[–] mastefetri@infosec.pub 29 points 10 months ago

Gosh, how rude. Ashcroft wanted to ride out the clock with a gish gallop and the mean interviewer wouldn't let him. What happened to journalistic standards?

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Why would Rolling Stone link to Shitter rather than directly to the CNN interview?

They are enabling their oppressor

Edit: I tried to post the clip from CNN. After it hanging because it was stuck on the pop ups to allow it to track me even off their site and requests to push non stop ads to my cell phone in the middle of meetings and dinner I gave up.

There has to be a way.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

‘What’s your legal argument?’

‘Your honour, it’s the perennial argument of I’m Rubber, You’re Glue, as put forth in the case of Billy vs Jimmy in the schoolyard, 1954. The teacher in that case argued that Billy was, in fact, glue…’

[–] Tbird83ii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I'm sorry, but Billy v Jimmy is not consistent with this nations Historical Traditions. Your argument needs to include a valid ruling from between 1776 and a time period that justifies my argument, whether or not the precedent at that time was to provide justice only to land-owning white men.

So sayeth we Court Supreme.

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[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Oh no, not SCRUTINY!! GOPs kryptonite.

[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Melting down is the new "slammed."

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

No idea why the host keeps walking on the guests answers when just letting him talk is the best way to prove he obviously doesn't know shit.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Didn't watch the video, but from the quotes he did wait...

The Republican just claimed he was cut off so he couldn't answer, and then still wouldn't answer.

He wants to have the "let me finish" argument where it just devolves to that. When given time to answer, they don't, just keep saying "let me finish" until they walk away.

Remember, Republicans are toddlers, and they argue like that

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The host did cut him off a few times, but he cut him off specifically to keep him on focus to the questions at hand and not let him bloviate.

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Yeah. When a secretary of state positively asserts that there have been allegations that the sitting president of the United States has engaged in insurrection, making them answer "what did he do?" is the only next thing that should be asked and no deviations should be allowed.

but from the quotes he did wait

didn't watch the video

Okay buddy. Good for you I guess. You didn't watch and yet you have an opinion that's specifically related to watching.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

The host cut him off to keep him on track so he can ruin his own argument instead of changing the subject.

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah i think the problem is when you just let them talk they will quickly change the subject and start up the gish gallop so interrupting is the only way to actually stay on topic. Otherwise you're just giving them a platform to spew a hundred lies without having a chance to refute anything.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Can't reason people out of things they didn't reason themselves into.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft’s attempt to justify his ludicrous threat to have President Joe Biden removed from the state’s electoral ballot spiraled into chaos over the most basic of questions: “How so?”

During a Monday interview with CNN’s Boris Sanchez, the Republican was asked how he justified his threats to have Biden removed from the state’s ballot in retaliation for recent attempts to remove Trump from state ballots on grounds that his actions in the aftermath of the 2020 election constitute insurrection.

Ashcroft pivoted to pointing out that Colorado and Maine had moved to remove Trump from their ballots despite the former president not yet being convicted of acts of insurrection.

Last week,  Ashcroft wrote on X, formerly Twitter that while he expects “the Supreme Court to overturn this, if not, Secretaries of State will step in & ensure the new legal standard for @realDonaldTrump applies equally to @JoeBiden!”

The states that have chosen to remove Trump from their ballot did so under allegations that the former president fomented the Jan. 6 certification-day riot that took place in the Capitol and went to great lengths to attempt to undermine the results of his 2020 election loss.

By contrast — and as Ashcroft exemplified in his blundered interview — the claim that President Biden has engaged in similar acts holds no water.


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