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[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 199 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just a reminder that Grand Jury made up of Georgia citizens saw the evidence, most of which was provided by Republicans, and saw enough prima facea evidence of Trump's guilt that THEY felt it warranted the indictment.

Fani Willis is doing her job. The only people playing politics are the ones trying to impeach her.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

Fani Willis is doing her job.

Right there is the problem for republicans.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happens If they do impeach her and they put a Trump crony in as prosecutor? Does that person just drop the charges?

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not completely convinced the law technically allows for that, but IANAL I don't know shit about fuck AND I'm basing this off the fact that these are fascists trying to take power AND seem like they legitimately belong there.

Like I'm fairly certain this is all shit Nazis in Germany actually did in the 1930s

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah definitely taking a page out thier book. Just want to know if they going be successful.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 96 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is this the sound of desperation?

[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call that the sound of desperation. Sounds more like business as usual to me.

"Prosecute all the criminals you want, as long as it isn't us." - GOP, Circa since the beginning of time

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don't see themselves as criminals, but heroes.

It's psychotic.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

It's more than just self perception. They are INSISTING they are the heroes of the human story. The fascists are intent on eradicating all that don't comform to their racist patriarchal/misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic nightmare vision for the future and rewriting the history books to reflect their ”superior” and ”moral” right to inherit the Earth.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Most everyone is the hero of their own story and not as criminals. What you say is actually pretty meaningless.

If people could actually see/know objective truth things would be a lot easier.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Whiny, off-key, and grating? Yep, I think so.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Either the sound of desperation or power. If they can kill this criminal case through impeachment then it’s an exercise in power.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

Thankfully, it looks like Kemp is firmly not on Trump's side on this. Which isn't surprising considering how Trump made him look.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Georgia passed a law back in May specifically allowing for the removal of DAs.

https://apnews.com/article/brian-kemp-georgia-prosecutor-district-attorney-remove-7987cd538ab3ccdc713ae4d2b2aec32b

Ostensibly, it's to be used on prosecutors who are failing to do their jobs. For example, one Georgia DA refuses to prosecute marijuana charges.

I predicted that the instant she filed charges, there would be a move to remove her and I hate being right. :(

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone predicted what it would actually be used for. You did something I don't like? Gone.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 25 points 1 year ago

DeSantis has been doing this to elected Democratic state attorneys in Florida over the past year, which may have inspired the Georgia law.

[–] Jode@midwest.social 52 points 1 year ago

At what point does this become, in itself, obstruction of justice?

[–] CapgrasDelusion@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"We, the undersigned … hereby certify to you..."

Oh man, I wonder who else signed it...

looks at letter

Literally just this fuckstick.

[–] ToAllPointsWest@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How isn't this Obstruction of Justice?

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Oh it totally is. No doubt about it.

[–] ziggurism@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate news stories that are just “someone tweeted”. The journalist who wrote this did nothing beyond add some trump quotes.

What response, if any, has Kemp made? Are other legislators on board? What are the rules governing how the legislature may review or impeach the acts of a county prosecutor? When does the legislature convene if there’s no special session? What are the rules for special sessions if there is one? Didn’t the legislature recently pass a law giving themselves expanded powers over prosecutorial discretion? Does that apply here?

Is this just a publicity stunt by some no name state legislator posted on their Twitter, or is this a serious move? If it’s the former, we needn’t have wasted our electrons.

[–] Remmock@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A letter bearing multiple signatures compelling the Governor to make action is serious and an example of an attempt to test the political waters before trying something bolder.

[–] jdsquared@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I think it only has the one signature though.

[–] ziggurism@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

how does this letter compel the governor to act?

Edit: i checked the georgia constitution. If 3/5ths of the legislature certify a letter about a state of emergency, then the governor is compelled to call a special session. and if he doesn't after three days, the legislature may convene itself.

the republican caucus has a 3/5ths majority in neither the senate nor the house, so even if every republican legislator signed (doubtful), this would not compel the governor to act.

[–] Remmock@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean to tell me that you don’t understand that a letter penned by a member of your own party and undersigned by others were to make it to your desk urging action that you would not endeavor to explore avenues to take said action?

To compel does not have to be a legal term obligating the governor to perform the action, but instead can he standard English to suggest a pressure to act.

[–] ziggurism@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might want to brush up on standard English

[–] Remmock@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a Masters in Literature. Not sure how much more you’d like me to brush up.

[–] ziggurism@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congrats on yer schooling. Woulda never guessed.

[–] Remmock@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where you’re concerned, that’s not surprising.

[–] ziggurism@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My own experience with advanced degrees is that they can give you a sense of humility. You gain some expert knowledge in one field, yes, but you also get a glimpse of a larger world of knowledge that you did not specialize in. You learn just how much you don’t know.

It seems you had a very different experience with your degree. It gave you the confidence to pull rank to win internet arguments with strangers. If that is the case, then well done.

Of course you don’t need a masters in literature to know the meaning of the word “compel”. Any speaker of the English language knows this. Anyone who’s seen The Exorcist knows this. You pulling out your credentials proves nothing. It’s a non sequitur.

And of course even if the word meant what you claim it meant, it would be irrelevant. You, my friend, are a non sequitur wrapped inside a non sequitur.

[–] ziggurism@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

According to wikipedia, the Georgia general assembly already met from Jan 9th to March 29th of this year, and cannot meet for more than 40 days in a year per the state constitution. I'm assuming it must have a clause granting the governor the power to exempt the legislature from that time limit for a special session, or else this whole request is unconstitutional. But I didn't find anything on wikipedia saying so.

edit: I found it. Article V, section II, paragraph VII:

Special sessions of the General Assembly. (a) The Governor may convene the General Assembly in special session by proclamation which may be amended by the Governor prior to the convening of the special session or amended by the Governor with the approval of three-fifths of the members of each house after the special session has convened; but no laws shall be enacted at any such special session except those which relate to the purposes stated in the proclamation or in any amendment thereto.

(b) The Governor shall convene the General Assembly in special session for all purposes whenever three-fifths of the members to which each house is entitled certify to the Governor in writing, with a copy to the Secretary of State, that in their opinion an emergency exists in the affairs of the state. The General Assembly may convene itself if, after receiving such certification, the Governor fails to do so within three days, excluding Sundays.

(c) Special sessions of the General Assembly shall be limited to a period of 40 days unless extended by three-fifths' vote of each house and approved by the Governor or unless at the expiration of such period an impeachment trial of some officer of state government

is pending, in which event the House shall adjourn and the Senate shall remain in session until such trial is completed.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 32 points 1 year ago

Hmmm, it seems these lawmakers are attempting to meddle in an ongoing case.

What's the word for that again 🤔 hmmmmm

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A Republican state senator in Georgia has moved to impeach the Fulton county district attorney, Fani Willis.

On Thursday, Colton Moore wrote a letter to Governor Brian Kemp in which he called for an emergency review of Willis’s actions.

“We, the undersigned … hereby certify to you … that in our opinion an emergency exists in the affairs of the state, requiring a special session to be convened … for all purposes, to include, without limitation, the review and response to the actions of Fani Willis,” Moore wrote.

In a statement reported by the rightwing media outlet Breitbart, Moore said: “We must strip all funding and, if appropriate, impeach Fani Willis.”

We cannot stand idly by as corrupt prosecutors choose to target their political opposition,” the website read underneath a headline of “God.

Following Willis’s delivery of the 41-count indictment, the Fulton county district attorney, who is African American, has faced a wave of racist abuse online including from Trump, who, using a thinly veiled play on the N-word, wrote on Truth Social: “They never went after those that Rigged the Election … They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!”


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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

It is amazing. A politician attacks a professional doing her job and accuses her to be politically motivated. You just cannot make up shit like that.

On top of that, this issue calls for emergency measures in their opinion, as if the state had no real problems.

[–] hootenannyshenanigan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Following Willis’s delivery of the 41-count indictment, the Fulton county district attorney, who is African American, has faced a wave of racist abuse online including from Trump, who, using a thinly veiled play on the N-word, wrote on Truth Social: “They never went after those that Rigged the Election … They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!”

What in the actual fuck.

I saw a bumper sticker the other day that said, “I miss mean tweets and cheap gas.” Absolutely fuck these fascist racist asshole cultists.

[–] ViscountMochi@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

One time in the late 90s or maybe early 00s I got gas for $0.79/gallon. That was pretty sweet.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

How much more obvious can’t they get….