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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 417 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Elon Musk loves to speak confidently about shit he knows nothing about. This leads to him being a confident speaker on every topic... I just wish we could figure out a way to shut him up.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 550 points 10 months ago (25 children)
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[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 320 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Yes the compiler/interpreter can figure it out on the fly, that's what we mean by untyped languages. And as stated both have their merits and their faults.

Elon doesn't know what the words mean and just chimes in with his AI future BS.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 93 points 10 months ago (9 children)

And as stated both have their merits and their faults.

Yes! Just because a compiler could guess the type doesn't mean it should. Elon didn't understand the meme at all.

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[–] janAkali@lemmy.one 59 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

Yes the compiler/interpreter can figure it out on the fly, that's what we mean by untyped languages.

Are there untyped languages? You probably meant 'dynamically typed languages'.

But even statically typed languages can figure out most types for you from the context - it's called 'type inference'.

[–] nul@programming.dev 93 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most of my code is untyped. First I type it, then I realize it's all wrong and use backspace to untype it.

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[–] Alivrah@lemmy.world 237 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Press X (formerly Twitter) to Doubt

[–] asyncrosaurus@programming.dev 214 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Remember when people were calling this dummy the "real life Tony Stark"? Lol.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 87 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I was one of those. In my defense, 2012-2015(ish) he really was doing cool things. Tesla and Space X were super innovative and brought optimism. Then a time traveler stepped on a bug, the whole Thailand pedophile fiasco happened and it went downhill from there. Now we have yokes, dumb turn signals and the whole cybertruck, not to mention removing ultrasound sensors to save a few cents and the whole Twitter debacle. At least space X is still somehow unfucked?

In case it helps... I'm sorry.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 92 points 10 months ago (2 children)

he really was doing cool things.

He was buying cool things

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think the problem was he started to believe his own hype that he was a super-genius that knew everything about everything.

I mean I don't know the nitty gritty details of building an electric car or building rockets. But neither does Elon Musk. Which would be fine except that he tries to talk about these things like he does understand all of the details. Nobody knows everything about everything, it's only an idiot that tries to act like he does.

But then he tries talking like he's an expert in a field I am familiar with and it's like... there's points people could make on this subject, but that's not one of them.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 10 months ago

its amazing how elon was once so milquetoast and inoffensive that he was a guest on the big bang theory and then he was like you know whats good? nazis.

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago (4 children)

What you mean? He is!

The netflix adaptation..... Lmao

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[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 164 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's the kinda guy whose only programming experience is learning Python for 3 hours 6 years ago, yet he thinks he's the programming god.

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[–] mrkite@programming.dev 153 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's kinda amazing how someone can work so hard to sabotage their own public image.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 32 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Musk wants Twitter to fail. He bid on it for a laugh and when his bid was accepted he tried to get out of it.

They made him buy it and he's been butthurt ever since. He wants everyone involved to suffer, because then the decision to hold him accountable was a bad decision.

He doesn't give a fuck about people, or technology, or even the money he sunk on it. So it looks like he's shaving his eyebrows to spite his face. It doesn't hurt, so he doesn't care.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 32 points 10 months ago (5 children)

4D chess isn't real. Sometimes, rich and powerful people do dumb things. Sometimes they're not very smart and have a visible personality disorder. Searching for an underlying clever motive is an exercise in your intelligence - not theirs.

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[–] QaspR@lemmy.world 134 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Clearly this man has never read a book on type theory or compiler construction.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 145 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Clearly this man has never read a book

[–] earmuff@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Clearly this man has never read

[–] Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Clearly this man has never

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[–] Skates@feddit.nl 106 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I constantly feel the need to argue with this dumb fuck and his 99% wrong opinions. I usually have to take a step back, remember it's not worth it, and then move on. It would be a great help if I had a Firefox add-on that precedes all of musk's tweets with "retard weighing in: ", just as a reminder that he's also allowed a point of view, despite his mental issues.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

I remember someone once created a firefox addon that made all of Trump's tweets look like they were drawn with crayon. Someone should make a new version of that for Musk.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 25 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Pretty sure you‘re only using the r-bomb and „mental issues“ in a joking way but its kind of not funny.

Musk is a spoiled, unempathetic, overhyped idiot who claims to be autistic… perfect example that autistic people can be cretins as well.

But a lot of autistic people are getting called the r-word and its not ok. Mental (health) issues are not a stigma. They are okay and normal. Being an asshole isnt normal or okay though.

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[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 91 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shut the fuck up, Lonny. You’re out of your element.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 82 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

For the curious, this is about as easy as it gets for proper type inference. You could leave out the one or other thing (most prominently, polymorphism), but that kind of stuff would hardly qualify as even a toy example.

I won't claim that J. Random Hacker will have issues understanding it -- it's a neatly tied bundle of necessary complexity without any distracting parts (like efficiency), if you sit down with the thing (ideally starting the whole series from the beginning) you'll be able to grok it (and have learned a lot). However, understanding HM isn't the same as being able to extend it, which includes proving soundness of the system, that kind of stuff is a specialised field within a specialised field within academia with more open questions than answered ones. The reason Rust doesn't have HKTs? Because their interaction with lifetimes is insufficiently understood. Those kinds of questions can easily start 20+ years of research only to be answered with "yep that's inherently unsound/uncomputable/whatever".

Oh, EDIT, forgot: AI-enabled typing is obviously a completely braindead idea. I don't need a second lazy, impatient, hubristic idiot looking at my code, I need something to catch mistakes. Something deterministic, rule-based, pure unerring logic. Which is exactly what type systems are and do.

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[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 79 points 10 months ago

Musk's greatest innovative genius is finding new ways to be annoying.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Elon what the fuck are you talking about

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 69 points 10 months ago
[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 63 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Quick, somebody teach this man JavaScript.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Actually on second thought, let's just give him a marble notebook and crayons and tell him that's JavaScript.

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[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 59 points 10 months ago

That's a load bearing "done right".

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

1 == "1"

It's not that hard

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Oh look, a dipshit who never wrote a line of code.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

starting to see why twitter breaks every day since elon bought it

elon is basically chip morehead from the chipadmin episode of sales guy vs web dude

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[–] HairHeel@programming.dev 45 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I tend to think people shit on Musk more than they should, but holy shit does it bug me when a CEO talks about engineering problems with such bravado.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 29 points 10 months ago

He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software & Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from his cars and rockets.

Rod Hilton about Elon Musk.

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[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 39 points 10 months ago

Musk being an assumer (note how he's vomiting certainty on future events) doesn't surprise me a tiny bit.

[–] Solemarc@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

I didn't know we even had dynamic compiled languages but a quick google search tells me Lisp counts. Wonder if Musk actually knew that or if this screenshot is taken mid dunning-kruger.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 38 points 10 months ago

Jesse, what the hell are you talking about?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 10 months ago

I know literally 0.0000000001% of 1st year CS, and even I know that Musk just googled what "type" means in this context. No shit a compiler can determine the type at compile time. That's not what the post was about, Elon my guy.

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