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Article seems pretty flawed. Relevance is a vague metric, and the author relies pretty heavily on data related to government site visitation, which seems subject to bias toward certain types of users.

Market share is likely still incredibly low, but Firefox's relevance should be spiking right now due to Google's shenanigans with Chromium. The fact that like 90% of revenue for its for-profit wing is from Google is still troubling.

Any alternative views out there?

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[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My government sites don't work with Firefox (no add-ons), have to use chrome, they recommend and only support chrome.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use chrome for government sites and Firefox for everything else.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago

May I ask which country you're from? That sounds dystopian.

[–] John@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Few years ago(maybe 10) it was still recommended or even necessary to use IE for a lot of goverment Internet Services here in Germany. The online Zoll handling for example. I think a lot of goverments are not really into accesibility optimization.

[–] markkdark@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Before the new year, I donated 25€ for Firefox, my long-time companion to #degoogle Grapheneos and Linux. Although Google is introducing DRM, I don't think anything is so important in this life that I have to use Chrome or IE, I will adapt to the situation and instead of worrying about DRM (of course, for the public Internet, this seems like a total violation of users' rights, for safety 🤣🤣🤣, really?) I will try to be more social, but not in the sense of social networks, but hanging out with friends or listening to music or running or a good book... I definitely don't want this big corporation near me, which we are more and more they control... (google,ms,apple,amazon...) Firefox probably missed by not insisting on FirefoxOS (phones), but it has a great agenda - privacy and simplicity. I look forward to many years of using FF!!

[–] Zworf@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is, you can't donate to firefox. Only to the mozilla foundation which spends it on other stuff.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

theres a difference between the mozilla foundation - the non profit - and the mozilla corporation - the for profit.

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[–] rab@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Is this copy pasta

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Firefox has been irrelevant for about a decade now. Most webdevs don't even test for firefox anymore. Major websides actively ignore it and most users evidently either don't know and/or use it.

Yes, firefox is relevant as an alternative to Chromium-based browsers, but that's about it. Mozilla has done a stellar job at keeping it irrelevant to keep bagging that sweet google money.

Honestly, I hope firefox and mozilla die, to be reborn again by another entity, but Mitchell Baker probably will do their best to keep getting that sweet, sweet, Google money.

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[–] pipows@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago

I guess Firefox market share will be closely related to Linux desktop market share

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The day Firefox gets native mouse gestures is the day I swap. Until then will continue to be a very happy Vivaldi user.

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[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only thing I miss in Firefox is PWA, but I still mainly use it.

[–] kzhe@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

There's an extension which allows PWAs.

[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

What a ridiculous title, article and post.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I only use FF in Linux, I tried on Android but it's somewhat bad 😔

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Working just fine for me...

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I've found the reason it's not great on mobile is because even if you tell your android phone to use Firefox as default it simply ignores it and uses chrome anyways

Edit: I was able to get it to work properly as my default browser but I had to disable chrome in the app settings. Now it's great

[–] vvv@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

You can disable chrome in it's app settings!

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Disable chrome. Problem solved.

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

What phone do you use that you experience this?

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