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[–] admin@beehaw.org 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm proud of the state I live in.

[–] LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org 16 points 8 months ago

Very proud. I'm desperately hoping none of my neighbors end up with new signs in the near future

[–] dm_me_your_boobs@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hope that's Maine in this case.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

That's pretty obvious.

[–] theforkofdamocles@beehaw.org 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

SCOTUS is going to have to weigh in real quick if they don’t just stay out of the whole thing.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Very likely they will overturn the CO decision...most of the states declining to remove him are because the party has the say on the primary ballot....its a different story on the general election though. This is what the MI court basically said. They left the challenge open for the general election qualifications.

Also SCOTUS declined to expedite the "immunity" ruling because they likely don't want to take it. The appeals will very likely say "the president is not a fucking King" and the SCOTUS will decline to hear the case and say "what they said."

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is what the MI court basically said. They left the challenge open for the general election qualifications.

I honestly think they were right on this. Ultimately the primary is an election for a private organization to decide who they are going to back as candidates for various offices. There's no legal basis for forcing them to choose candidates who actually qualify for those offices.

Now the general election is an entirely different boat.

[–] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, my reading of Article 14 sec 3 is simply put he cant hold office. Doesn't mention anything about elections or what to do if he wins an election (unless congress votes 2/3 to allow him to hold office). Up until that point it is likely a state matter for how they handle their elections, especially when it does not involve the general/federal elections.

I'd say it likely falls under whatever "Obama wasn't born in America, he can't be president" if that statement were ever actually true. I don't know the legal precedence though for people running for office that aren't legally qualified to hold the office.

I'm sure if he actually wins the primary for the GOP ticket, it will end up at the supreme court. Honestly this is a golden opportunity for the GOP to rid themselves of the burden that is Trump, and they would fully get to blame the Supreme Court and democrats, and scream about it til the end of time for their electorate; many of them hate having to cow-tow to Trump, and even regret missing the opportunity to impeach him and be done with him. Y'all get a second chance, and this time very little backlash for yourselves, unlike if you'd voted to impeach after Jan 6th.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

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Click here to see the summaryMaine’s top election official has removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s 2024 primary ballot, in a surprising decision based on the 14th Amendment’s “insurrectionist ban.”

The decision makes Maine the second state to disqualify Trump from office, after the Colorado Supreme Court handed down its own stunning ruling that removed him from the ballot earlier this month.

Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, a Democrat, issued the decision Thursday after presiding over an administrative hearing earlier this month about Trump’s eligibility for office.

“Democracy is sacred … I am mindful that no Secretary of State has ever deprived a presidential candidate of ballot access based on Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment.

“The oath I swore to uphold the Constitution comes first above all, and my duty under Maine’s election laws … is to ensure that candidates who appear on the primary ballot are qualified for the office they seek,” she said.

Explaining her reasoning, Bellows wrote that the challengers presented compelling evidence that the January 6 insurrection “occurred at the behest of” Trump – and that the US Constitution “does not tolerate an assault on the foundations of our government.”


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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago

Johnny5...alive?

[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 6 points 8 months ago

Time for the dominoes to fall.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Two states so far.