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@AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world.

If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.

There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.

You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.

If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.

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@TheFederatedPipe@kbin.social

I’m totally in favor with your post, but not everyone is willing to self-host or is capable of doing it. So I recommendation would be and one that I’m currently using, is when uploading a file to these cloud services encrypt your files. I’m using #cryptomator, but I’m sure there are other alternatives, like #rclone. There is also #veracrypt, but to my understanding, is not great for cloud sync.

Cryptomator official website Quick youtube video in how to use cryptomator (3:51)

Cryptomator is open source and free, but only on desktop. To use the mobile version, you will have to pay. Here is a list of alternatives to cryptomator, if you are familiar with one, please share your knowledge.

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@danileonis@lemmy.ml

Don’t forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn’t require a server or advanced knowledge to work.

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[–] AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.

There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.

You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.

If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i've recently figured out how dynamic DNSs work, i am unstoppable.

now i just need to figure out how to encrypt traffic...

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago

LetsEncrypt offers free SSL certificates, if you're familiar with reverse proxies then it's not too difficult to implement. I have mine set up to automatically renew my wildcard cert, then send a special signal to the nginx docker container for it to reload the SSL certs

A more onedrive/google drive-like alternative to Nextcloud would be Syncthing, which is E2EE and doesn't need additional config of SSL certs and the like

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got some angry letters from my ISP when I was younger for using dynamic DNS, ranging from it being a virus to it violating their terms.

No idea of they still get pissy about it or not.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what a shitty ISP. but i'm one to talk, i'm basically limited to two daughter companies of Telekom. god, internet sucks here.

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[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With Nextcloud, when you, install maps, the location logging app, uploads your photos, you can see your life laid out over a time access. It's scary it you normally give all that to say Google or Apple.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you know if nextcloud is foss? Do you know any that are?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it's licensed under GNU AGPL 3.0.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Perfect, looks like I have a small project to get started on!

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

They're a FOSS fork of ownCloud.

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can copy past this on the resume ? Is it ok for you, I clearly agree, and don't use that shit of DB ofc. I keep this link for relatives though

[–] AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t really know what you mean with resume but you can copy and paste this anywhere you want.

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

For real sorry, I've read what I wrote 🤣.
I meant the body of this post.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any chance you could explain the basics of how the Hetzner thing would work? I'm noob

[–] AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You go to this website from Hetzner:

https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share

You sign up for one of the plans, cheapest is 5.11 EUR a month. You’ll get 1 TB of storage for this.

Storage Share is essentially some space on a server from Hetzner where the Nextcloud software is already running.

[–] LemmyHead@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Their customer support is the worst I've ever experienced though. If nothing goes wrong,I guess they're okay.

I'd recommend skiff instead as not self hosted alternative

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Missing option that I use:

Free Google Drive mounted with rclone and then eCryptfs filesystem mounted on the Google Drive mountpoint.

I get the free space and Google only sees encrypted files.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love you so much right now

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

😊 ☺️

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

not bad too, i will not edit the body with that because i think it can be against the ToS of Google, and if not and that's become a popular solution, that will be for sure in it then.

You can loose your account so easily with them, so its better to be "reliable" ^^

[–] zephyr@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yet another reminder that the cloud is just a fancy name for someone else's computer.

[–] UdeRecife 2 points 1 year ago

Not really that fancy. It's just a marketing euphemism. The giving of a cool name to something very mundane.

You're right, it's just a clouded way of saying 'someone else's computer '.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Of course it is. Just a reminder that IaaS > SaaS. Host your own stuff, it's not that hard, amd nobody will come snooping.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DropBox has been dead to me since 2014 when they put former US Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice on their board of directors.

[–] RustyShackleford 5 points 1 year ago

Even less shocking, this can’t be disabled in mobile browsers.

[–] danileonis@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Don't forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn't require a server or advanced knowledge to work.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Syncthing is great!

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah true,
Holidays or not, I'm in 420 consumer mod, I don't think XD. I edit :p

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 year ago

We need to move away from proprietary "cloud" solutions.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only real way to opt out of this shit is to start using a better cloud and nuke Dropbox from every computer you own

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

If it's not open source and self hosted, I think it will probably turn out just the same as Dropbox. It's the power dynamic. Closed SaaS, on someone else's computers, is a very weak position. Not surprising when the relationship turns abusive.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

There's always Cryptomator too. VeraCrypt also works and syncs quickly.

[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago

If you have to use cloud storage, encrypt the files before you upload them

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Time to fill dropbox with gos of eroticas.

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Finally, someone will read John/John, my series of erotic John Oliver / Elton John fanfictions.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Awesome photo choice!

"What's in the box?"

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

"Third-party AI services are only used when customers actively engage with Dropbox AI features which themselves are clearly labeled,"

Should be fine since I never ever use DB then.

[–] sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is this legal? Isn't this a violation of copyright law at the very least, plus any other licenses that might apply to the files?

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

i think its a scenario well accepted within the terms of uses...

Recently those of OpenAi changed btw, and that's very interesting.. to read.
They sent the mail the night of Christmas if i'm not wrong lmaooooo

If laws were made for citizens, we would know for now 😆

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I never opted in, no DropBox, OneDrive nor GDrive.

[–] Lemmyfunbun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with cryptomater in my mind is eventually with quantum computing the encryption will be cracked. Even if you delete the file its stored somwhere else in their backups. There will be a treasure of good information even if its 10 yearas from now to be harvested.

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[–] spez_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Use your own NAS

[–] Cosmocrat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not just encrypt your data before uploading to the cloud?

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why return the problem on the user ?

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Because if not this it will always be something else.

[–] RobotDaniel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I would recommend proton drive as a great replacement if you want something that doesn't need a server

[–] hairynipple@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

As is usual in these cases, this is not legal in the EU and they cannot "legally" do this. However they might still choose to take the risk or factor in the cost of litigation.

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