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@AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world.

If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.

There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.

You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.

If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.

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@TheFederatedPipe@kbin.social

I’m totally in favor with your post, but not everyone is willing to self-host or is capable of doing it. So I recommendation would be and one that I’m currently using, is when uploading a file to these cloud services encrypt your files. I’m using #cryptomator, but I’m sure there are other alternatives, like #rclone. There is also #veracrypt, but to my understanding, is not great for cloud sync.

Cryptomator official website Quick youtube video in how to use cryptomator (3:51)

Cryptomator is open source and free, but only on desktop. To use the mobile version, you will have to pay. Here is a list of alternatives to cryptomator, if you are familiar with one, please share your knowledge.

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@danileonis@lemmy.ml

Don’t forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn’t require a server or advanced knowledge to work.

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[–] AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world 72 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.

There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.

You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.

If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

i've recently figured out how dynamic DNSs work, i am unstoppable.

now i just need to figure out how to encrypt traffic...

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago

LetsEncrypt offers free SSL certificates, if you're familiar with reverse proxies then it's not too difficult to implement. I have mine set up to automatically renew my wildcard cert, then send a special signal to the nginx docker container for it to reload the SSL certs

A more onedrive/google drive-like alternative to Nextcloud would be Syncthing, which is E2EE and doesn't need additional config of SSL certs and the like

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I got some angry letters from my ISP when I was younger for using dynamic DNS, ranging from it being a virus to it violating their terms.

No idea of they still get pissy about it or not.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

what a shitty ISP. but i'm one to talk, i'm basically limited to two daughter companies of Telekom. god, internet sucks here.

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[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

With Nextcloud, when you, install maps, the location logging app, uploads your photos, you can see your life laid out over a time access. It's scary it you normally give all that to say Google or Apple.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do you know if nextcloud is foss? Do you know any that are?

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it's licensed under GNU AGPL 3.0.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Perfect, looks like I have a small project to get started on!

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

They're a FOSS fork of ownCloud.

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can copy past this on the resume ? Is it ok for you, I clearly agree, and don't use that shit of DB ofc. I keep this link for relatives though

[–] AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don’t really know what you mean with resume but you can copy and paste this anywhere you want.

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

For real sorry, I've read what I wrote 🤣.
I meant the body of this post.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Any chance you could explain the basics of how the Hetzner thing would work? I'm noob

[–] AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You go to this website from Hetzner:

https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share

You sign up for one of the plans, cheapest is 5.11 EUR a month. You’ll get 1 TB of storage for this.

Storage Share is essentially some space on a server from Hetzner where the Nextcloud software is already running.

[–] LemmyHead@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Their customer support is the worst I've ever experienced though. If nothing goes wrong,I guess they're okay.

I'd recommend skiff instead as not self hosted alternative

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Missing option that I use:

Free Google Drive mounted with rclone and then eCryptfs filesystem mounted on the Google Drive mountpoint.

I get the free space and Google only sees encrypted files.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love you so much right now

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

😊 ☺️

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

not bad too, i will not edit the body with that because i think it can be against the ToS of Google, and if not and that's become a popular solution, that will be for sure in it then.

You can loose your account so easily with them, so its better to be "reliable" ^^

[–] zephyr@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yet another reminder that the cloud is just a fancy name for someone else's computer.

[–] UdeRecife 2 points 10 months ago

Not really that fancy. It's just a marketing euphemism. The giving of a cool name to something very mundane.

You're right, it's just a clouded way of saying 'someone else's computer '.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Of course it is. Just a reminder that IaaS > SaaS. Host your own stuff, it's not that hard, amd nobody will come snooping.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

DropBox has been dead to me since 2014 when they put former US Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice on their board of directors.

[–] RustyShackleford 5 points 10 months ago

Even less shocking, this can’t be disabled in mobile browsers.

[–] danileonis@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Don't forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn't require a server or advanced knowledge to work.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Syncthing is great!

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah true,
Holidays or not, I'm in 420 consumer mod, I don't think XD. I edit :p

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 19 points 10 months ago

We need to move away from proprietary "cloud" solutions.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The only real way to opt out of this shit is to start using a better cloud and nuke Dropbox from every computer you own

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago

If it's not open source and self hosted, I think it will probably turn out just the same as Dropbox. It's the power dynamic. Closed SaaS, on someone else's computers, is a very weak position. Not surprising when the relationship turns abusive.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

There's always Cryptomator too. VeraCrypt also works and syncs quickly.

[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago

If you have to use cloud storage, encrypt the files before you upload them

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Time to fill dropbox with gos of eroticas.

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

Finally, someone will read John/John, my series of erotic John Oliver / Elton John fanfictions.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Awesome photo choice!

"What's in the box?"

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

"Third-party AI services are only used when customers actively engage with Dropbox AI features which themselves are clearly labeled,"

Should be fine since I never ever use DB then.

[–] sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is this legal? Isn't this a violation of copyright law at the very least, plus any other licenses that might apply to the files?

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

i think its a scenario well accepted within the terms of uses...

Recently those of OpenAi changed btw, and that's very interesting.. to read.
They sent the mail the night of Christmas if i'm not wrong lmaooooo

If laws were made for citizens, we would know for now 😆

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I never opted in, no DropBox, OneDrive nor GDrive.

[–] Lemmyfunbun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem with cryptomater in my mind is eventually with quantum computing the encryption will be cracked. Even if you delete the file its stored somwhere else in their backups. There will be a treasure of good information even if its 10 yearas from now to be harvested.

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[–] spez_@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Use your own NAS

[–] Cosmocrat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why not just encrypt your data before uploading to the cloud?

[–] TGhost@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

why return the problem on the user ?

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Because if not this it will always be something else.

[–] RobotDaniel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

I would recommend proton drive as a great replacement if you want something that doesn't need a server

[–] hairynipple@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

As is usual in these cases, this is not legal in the EU and they cannot "legally" do this. However they might still choose to take the risk or factor in the cost of litigation.

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