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[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 120 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A place that prioritizes profit over care has worse care service? Never would have guessed the outcome.

[–] Starbuck@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But they had better profits, so it’s worth it. Unless you’re sick or poor, in which case who cares

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Not to worry! The competition of the elderly and terminal who are living there will allow them to just pack their bags and move to another place easily and without impact to their wellbeing because of their freedom of choice in this wonderful free market guided by the invisible hand

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 73 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

It's almost like privatizing public services is, somehow, a bad idea. But, but, but... capitalism....

E: jokes aside. The findings in these studies, while obvious to some (possibly most) people, are extremely important. Feelings without supporting data, are just opinions. Feeling with supporting data, are facts. Because of this study, we now have facts to fight against further privatization of public services.

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don't know, I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion that "good" and "profitable" aren't synonyms. It's almost as if there is often a financial incentive to make things worse...

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Right. Like they deliberately make good things into shit. I wish there was a good term for this phenomenon.

[–] mkhopper@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Greed.

No, no. Unabashed greed.

No, take it all the way. Fuck the little people to support my unabashed greed.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Enshittification. Coined by Cory Doctorow.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago

Haha yes, I know. I was kidding. Sorry.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

It's called "rent seeking." Even if some ya sci-fi author tried to coin a new term, there is nothing new about this type of behavior.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

hmm, if we follow the example like "desertification", how about "shittification"?

[–] SecretSauces@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Quality, especially in a service like healthcare, often doesn't mean profit. It's all about "how low can i make my overhead costs to make my good/service just BARELY passable, then take it one step lower".

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion that "good" and "profitable" aren't synonyms.

They're polar opposites.

Maybe one day there will be politicians with the balls to actually do something about it.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Death__BySnuSnu@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Actually, we all saw this coming.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

like we read the script a few dozen times before.

this is the part where we were supposed to be shocked, though. Hey everybody, gasp!

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you are surprised by this you probably have a poster of Ayn Rand on your wall.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Glad this was the top comment for me. Don’t need to scroll any further.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 58 points 10 months ago

Capitalism ruins everything it touches.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 56 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Privatization is the biggest scam of the 20th and 21st centuries. It has ruined every service it's touched and made them all more expensive. The exact opposite of what Neoliberal clowns keep telling us.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But Argentina thinks if they try it one more time...

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Very few cultures are able to pass the United States.

Most of them just follow behind, like businesses copying Apple.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

The United States is the poster child for what NOT to do with healthcare for the good of the population

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Just a reminder that the point of researching the validity of things we intuitively know to be true is to provide the empirical data and expert analysis that can be used in, say, legal decisions or legislative processes.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Thanks Jerkface.

I hate comments that are like “duh, we fucking know! Thus XYZ report or research is a waste of time and money!”

[–] nous@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

empirical data ... legislative processes.

Haha good one. The only data that matters to those in charge is what makes them more money, and the business friends more money and the lobbyists more money. Other data is basically irrelevant with the current asshiles that are in charge.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

we should try getting to the point where common sense is applied before legislation is passed! that'd probably save some fucking money

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

The problem is that common sense is subjective.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

LMFAO, how could any source report this with a straight face. DUH.

Capitalisms goal is to max short-term profit at any and all expenses, including your lives, locations, and social fabric. Capitalism does and will continue to kill you for short-term non-sustainable profit.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Bruh, the point is literally to make money. Of course care will be compromised.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In other news, water is wet.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

and bullshit reeks

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

It's not even feelings... Their missions are diametrically opposed. Hippocratic oath vs returns to shareholders should be regulated

[–] spicethedirt@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

No fuckin shit.

[–] dhcmrlchtdj__@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I’ll take No-brainers for $100, Alex

[–] flooppoolf@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Staff gets hours cut -> Less antimicrobial stewardship

-> Rise in infections -> :O

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 10 months ago

The increases are seen in conditions or outcomes deemed preventable and are key measures of hospital safety and quality.

But not profit. If these hospitals were paid based on decreasing preventable conditions we'd all be much better off.

Right now coming into a hospital twice is more profitable than coming into a hospital once. If we (insurance) paid based on minimizing visits then both hospital safety and quality would increase.

That isn't to say it's perfect. Corporations will always find loop-holes in the name of profit, but it would be a good first step. (Assuming we're going to have for-profit hospitals at all, which is the real mistake.)

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago

I remember reading about this in an architectural monthly like 10 years ago or more:

It didn't matter how "high-end" the building they were constructing was, they were always using the cheapest building materials available and long-term viability of the structure was a sincere afterthought.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

that sure wasn't completely obvious from the outset

hardly even at all

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

In other news, study reveals stuff gets wet when splashed with water. More at 11.

[–] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

There's a whole season of 'The Good Doctor ' that shows this process happening.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Almost as if the new priority were then profits instead of adequate patient care... Almost...

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Next you'll be telling me that they charge more too.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Telling you things? that's gonna cost you

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Look up Quentin Cook

Fuck that guy

[–] icedcoffee@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

The whole system has to go but private equity companies need to be the first thing we get rid of.

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