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[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 75 points 10 months ago (2 children)

shoot for repairability. the ones that drown all the components in styrofoam so you cant replace any pieces are not worth having. thermospa brand have the components all repairable. also the closer it is to your house the more you will use it. if you contact the manufacturer and ask what cancelled orders they have sitting around you can get a major discount like 30%+

[–] Jwin@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Smart move on the cancel request

[–] Magrath@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago

I have a styrofoam filled hot tub I bought for $100. I had to put $3000 in to in parts and fixed several leaks. It's not unrepairable, just not as straight forward. It was easy to find some of the leaks because the spray foam would be saturated with water so I just pulled out the wet foam and followed it to the leak. And when I was done I just put in some of the pink fiberglass insulation in it's place, but even that isn't necessary.

[–] Rebels_Droppin@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I used to remove them from customers homes. It was a very similar story each time. They loved it for a little while then it sat for 5 plus years used as a big outdoor table to hold other stuff on top the cover. It also is a bit pricey and a hassle to get rid of them. Most of the time I would have to cut it into 4 pieces to move the thing. I think they are a bit of a waste for most people. Mosquitos love them though.

[–] runjun@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I agree that they are a waste for most people. I have friends that have used theirs near daily going on 20 years.

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

They're basically exercise bikes, but much more expensive and awkward.

[–] Jwin@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The answer is: it depends. Before purchasing a hot tub take a water sample from the faucet you'll use to fill it. Take it to a pool/spa store and ask them what type of chemicals and maintenance you'll need to do. If your pH is aligned then you'll be in good shape. If it's not you will be fighting it forever.

[–] Magrath@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

That isn't true at all. The pH will needs adjusting from the tap and will need periodic adjusting during use, but that all depends on how often you use it and if you spill and drinks in to during use. I check my mine from weekly to monthly depending on how often I use it. Usually every 5-10 uses. The manufacturers of hot tubs and chemicals say after every use but that is way over doing and wastes testing strips.

Basically the pH needs to be adjusted so the chlorine can do it's job. That's the jyst. There are extra chemicals beyond that but those will be used on a anually or semi-anually basis.

[–] Theunplannedman@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Unless you're drowning in money or have a physical ailment that NEEDS a hot tub to improve your life- Dont.

[–] Knitwear@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

I'm the latter. Currently I'm having to use an inflatable bath in my wet room which can only be emptied via a powerdrill-powered water pump into a hose pipe and into the toilet. It's not ideal, ha

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I feel like hot tubs are great only if someone else is maintaining it for you. So either go somewhere and pay to use it, or own one and pay someone to keep it running well.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No matter how "sexy" it may look in porn and movies. Sex in a hot tub sucks. The water kills all lubrication.

[–] maniel@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, ever heard of an investigation on why the hot tube water foams up in time? Now you know why

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I actually look after them for idiots that install them for rentals.

No1 - Use bromine because it smells less than chlorine

No2 use multi bromine as it has anti algae and anti foam in it

No3 keep the pH correct, about 7.2 to 7.4, same as pool

No4 clean the filter every week

No5 kids love hot tubs, hot tubs HATE kids

No6 FUCKIN SHOWER BEFORE YOU USE IT YOU DAFT CUNT NO WONDER IT TURNED INTO FUCKING SOUP FUCK ME

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

everything makes sense to me except "hot tubs hate kids." Please explain what happened

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Adults get in the tub, relax and drink a G&T

Kids tend to jump in and out, dragging all the crap from the decking/patio with them each time

Plus they'll just piss in it, rather than getting out 😂

[–] Steveanonymous@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Kids are dirty oily greaseballs and they don’t shower before going in

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I would argue that prepubescent kids are not as greasy and oily as adults are, and although EVERYONE should shower before getting into jacuzzi, practically NOBODY does unless they are forced to do so and/or extremely fastidious about it.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

So . . . Linux users?

[–] Soulfulginger@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you're going to get one, highly recommend getting 240V instead of 110v/plug and play type. 240V are the only ones that can really keep up with the heat and give you that real jet feel in the tub.

If possible, keep it somewhere covered. We have it in our covered patio, which allows us to get use of it in any kind of weather and prevents mosquitos/other bugs coming around.

Chemical balancing can be pretty tough, we mostly keep a steady supply of bleach around to make sure it's staying clean. One issue we had was the test strips never seemed to say the water was hard enough so we kept adding calcium hardner, but it ended up precipitating and making a rough coating on the seats (eventually we were able to clean it off). Ended up deciding it wasn't a big deal if some values are out of range on the test strips as long as the stuff to keep people safe is balanced (ie chlorine)

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 10 months ago

Nothing but regrets. What I imagined and what I got are two very different things. I was thinking party time and sexy date night with the wifey. Instead, it’s a big ass chemistry set that also attracts pests.

I never saw a rat outside until they set up shop inside where the pump and all the plumbing is. I have no idea how they got in there. I smelled something dead and it took a while to figure out it was in there. Unscrewed the panels on the side and found a whole nest in there and a decomposing rat. Another time, a bunch of nasty frogs got into the water even though it was covered.

Aside from that, it was a nuisance to maintain. There’s always something a little off with the water. I spent more time maintaining and cleaning that damn thing than I ever spent relaxing in it. Then the cover eventually wore out from being in the sun. That was like $500 to replace.

That hot tub was nothing but an expensive mistake.

[–] Yuper@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hot tub chemical stores always tell you to use bromine instead of chlorine. They claim chlorine will destroy your tub. I have been using chlorine for 20+ years on 3 different tubs. Never had a problem. I suspect they recommend bromine only because it’s more expensive.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bromine has a higher boiling point than chlorine, which allows it to stay in the hot water longer. You can use chlorine in a hot tub, but you have to add it more frequently to achieve the proper level of sanitization.

[–] Yuper@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I’ve never had an issue with satiation using chlorine.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And you won’t, if you add it more frequently.

It’s a matter of long-term economic effect. Both work, but one is cheaper in the long-term because bromide sanitizers for longer at higher temperatures, such as those which exist in hot tubs. That’s the point they were making.

Chlorine also works fine, but because of the higher temperatures, you have to use more, which cost more.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But that smell hits different. It's what they use on Pirates of the Caribbean at Disney and partly why it smells the way it does.

[–] Yuper@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I realize I’m weird, but I love that smell

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think bromine destroys your clothes less doesn't it?

[–] Yuper@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe? I haven’t noticed it. I use the same bathing suit each time and it doesn’t appear to be faded.

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

I think chlorine really destroys the elastics

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've had two over the last decade or so.1st was a cheap 110v that couldn't run the jets and the heater at the same time. It was, as another poster mentioned, very fickle about the chemicals. I started out using chlorine but later switched to bromine. Mainly I hate the chlorine smell, but bromine does better in hot water anyway. Even so, I was forever testing and fiddling with the chemicals. Hot tubs are touchier than pools. Warm water is a great environment for bacteria so if your ph and sanitizers are off, the water can turn nasty pretty quickly.

When I moved, I left that one behind and got a much higher end spa. This one is a 240v and has much stronger jets and can stay hot when I'm using them. I've also switched to something called the Frog System. Get your tub ph, alkalinity, and everything set and toss in the two part floater. The first part has a mix of minerals that slowly dissolve. The second part is the chlorine. It attaches to the first and floats underneath is. As the chlorine dissolves, the whole thing slowly rolls over. Once the chlorine cartridge is floating on top, you replace it. Every three months, you replace the mineral cartridge. It is incredibly simple to use and I've pretty much stopped testing the water because the system seems to be maintaining everything perfectly. I've had to adjust the alkalinity once in the last year and that's it. I've never had to add any other chemicals since I started using this system. As an added bonus, I rarely notice the chlorine smell. I highly recommend it.

As for the people who talk about bugs and stuff in the water... you need a cover for it. If you leave it open, of course it will get nasty. You also can have problems with vermin. If there are openings in the shell, including the bottom, mice will likely get in. Whenever it gets cold out, that hot tub is very inviting to them. If they get in, they will probably start chewing wires and die horribly while costing you a bundle in repair costs. Put the tub on some sort of pad, concrete or otherwise, to stop vermin from tunneling underneath and watch for and damage on the shell where they might try to chew their way in.

If you are like me and love a long hot soak once or twice a week it's great. If not though, you may regret getting one. They can be a lot of work

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

Don't cheap out. Buy a good one or you'll end up spending more constantly repairing the cheap one.

[–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I got a Caldera spa in their mid range line. It is 240V, 5 person, with a salt system and a cover lifter. It cost about $12k USD all told. I love it, but DEFINITELY get the salt system for chlorinating. It would be much more of a pain in the ass without it. As it is, I still love the thing and use it regularly. I check the water chemistry about every five days and it's super simple to maintain. If I have a party and we are in for extended periods I have to add chlorine daily for a few days but that's it.

[–] joemo@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 10 months ago

My brother has a hot tub and loves it. Had it for a few years now. The important thing is staying on top of maintenance. Putting chemicals in, draining it, etc.

If you have any specific questions, let me know and I can see what he has to say.

[–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

It made a fantastic table.

We had one indoors in a sun room for years and years. Rarely used, eventually just ignored.

But man the cover was a great surface for cutting fabric and general use.

[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apparently my idea of hot tub is quite different of what people are speaking of here. I'm quessing OP meant jacuzzi.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hot tub and jacuzzi are used interchangeably in the US. Is the one that you posted used for bathing?

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hot tub is a machine. Jacuzzi is a brand

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tissue paper is an item, Kleenex is a brand. They're both interchangeable in the US.

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Well tissue paper is a different thing but yes I understand your point. But it's also important to understand when someone means a thing or the specific brand

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Be sure to use some sort of insect repellent around it. My coworker got one 3-4 years ago and within a year or two, ants began building a colony in the insulation inside the shell. The colony really thrived in the heat, and it became a huge issue.

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Never would have bought one myself, but it came with the house, and it's one of my favorite things. It's remarkable how physicall and mentally refreshing it is after doing a bunch of yard work or after a particularly mentally-exhausting day at work.

Ours has broken down twice, though, in 6 years, so between that and regular maintenance, it's an ongoing expense.

[–] stackPeek@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ex hot tub owner here: my regrets is not using it enough

[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 1 points 10 months ago

I bought a refurbished one about 5 years ago and it had been amazing for my wife and I. We run and lift weights a lot and it really seems to help with recovery. Replace the filters and add chlorine when needed. It’s actually pretty low maintenance for us.