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[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 93 points 10 months ago

You know what Viktor? Even kids can work out what's going on in Ba Sing Se. Which makes you dumber than a small child.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Someone should invite Orban to a vacation in Donetsk. Since there is no war, I'm sure he'll gladly accept.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Maybe a nice seaside excursion in Mariupol. Stick a toe in the Sea of Azov...

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is he deliberately trying to be a clown?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Bozo the Holocaust Enabler

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So if I kill someone then hide the body and refuse to admit I killed anyone, there was no murder?

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think a better analogy would be if you kill someone and then deny murder while being caught standing over the dead body with a bloody knife and the victim's blood all over you while you're still stabbing the corpse.

[–] bratosch@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

I swear officer, I was set up continues to stab the corpse

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 6 points 10 months ago

It was a special insanguinatory operation.

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 33 points 10 months ago
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So…. When do we get to kick Hungary out of the club?

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, lets call it an armed robbery, then.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Violent invasion and genocide are good enough, me thinks

[–] 768@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Once this is all over and Ukraine still exists, Hungary probably won't be a friend of Ukraine.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Orban openly has designs on parts of Ukrainian territory. If Russia manages to win, I’m fairly confident that Putin will give some portion of Ukraine to him, which is one of the main reasons he vibes with Putin. Orban wants to try to recreate a modern Austro-Hungarian empire… just like Erdogan wants to recreate a modern Ottoman Empire… just like Putin wants to recreate a modern Tzarist Imperialist Russia.

[–] 768@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think the Russian Empire will not give away expensively conquered land and people to basically a political vassal who is a member in a concurrent political entity and system. Today's Political Hungary might have powerful aspirations, but it's current actual power is somewhat limited to a gatekeeper (migration, military aid, energy flows) since Hungary is not a big entity like the USA, Russia, China or the EU as a whole.

I wonder how much the situation would compare to a hypothetical scenario where Texas would hold trade talks with China.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh I 100% agree. Orban is a complete imbecile (in general, but also more specifically) if he thinks that Putin is going to give him a single square centimeter of any land, anywhere, at any point in time, under any circumstances. Or, for that matter, if he thinks Putin would even allow his Neo-imperial Austrian-Hungary to even exist.

Putin doesn’t want partners. He wants vassals.

[–] pettend@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He says no war in Ukraine, but at the same time his propaganda in Hungary says the high inflation is because of the war, the opposition parties would join the war in Ukraine, all the problems in the country, at the moment, are because of the war, not because of him.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Pretending he's right doesn't that make it even worse.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

What a fucking clown.

[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

What Russia is doing is state operated terrorism. Aka, war.

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Well that's just disingenuous as all fuck.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

And England didn't take India from anyone, because the natives didn't have a flag.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

Block all major roads going out of Hungary with trucks and call it a total random strike of truck drivers until he changes his tune.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

This has "I'm not touching you" vibes.