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1-bit CPU complete kit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7zRU_UNabU

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[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago (6 children)

What's the purpose of this thing?

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 112 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a computer in almost its simplest form.

There's almost nothing to it, the circuit diagram is easy to read, you program it literally by flipping a couple of dip switches.

It's kind of an experiment for someone wanting to get into retro computer or hardware design.

That said it's essentially useless and I would much rather buy a kit from Ben Eater start with a 6502 and make something that can actually run complex programs.

[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even with just one bit and a few switches this seems like the sort of thing Picard could use to send an encoded message to Riker and Data in the future should the need arise.

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Why not use well placed gold plate with impressions? Times gonna march on anyway, no need for power either.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Turn an LED on and off apparently.

ETA to someone setting up an array and running Doom or Linux?

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 months ago
[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

How many for bad apple

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

Fun. It does not much, really. Two instructions (add, jump), parameters either 0 or 1, two instructions in total. It just shows how a computer works in general. All key signals are visible (Clock, Program Counter, Accumulator).

About as useful as a quantum computer, just way cheaper.

[–] guitarsarereal@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] rescue_toaster@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I teach an electronics class and a barebones version of this is one of the early logic gate labs: an SR latch built using NAND gates. It can set and reset a bit!

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

This is the perfect gadget for teaching electronics and logic.

If I was to teach such a class, I would set up exactly that circuit without telling them what it is, and let the kids find out: "You've got three LEDs and four DIP switches. Here you have a circuit diagram of it. What is this thing?"

[–] Crul@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

AFAIK, they are used as relays.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-bit_computing#1-bit

Computers and microcomputers may also be used, but they tend to overcomplicate the task and often require highly trained personnel to develop and maintain the system. A simpler device, designed to operate on inputs and outputs one-at-a-time and configured to resemble a relay system, was introduced. These devices became known to the controls industry as programmable logic controllers (PLC).

See also the playlist linked in the other comment with more explanations:
1-Bit Breadboard Computer - Usagi Electric (YouTube)

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Actual PLCs in the wild are industrial cabinets with a lot more capacity. Price-wise if you have a DIY project in mind you're better off buying a RISC-V microcontroller, under 10 bucks including board, with vastly more IO and processing power. Still not enough to replace one of those industrial cabinets, though, especially when it comes to IO capacity, do you have any idea how many sensors and actuators rollercoasters have.

This thing is so limited you have to engineer your problem to fit. Maybe something like switching your doorbell from normal to quiet to silent to flash lights. On the upside it's dead-simple.

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[–] doubletandard@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

mee seek and destroy…what’s is my purpose again?

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Sorry, one bit isn't even going to pass butter...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago

Perfect school project thing. Imagine you have an electronics/computer course and present your students with this circuit (without the print mask!). "See? Power supply, power LED, three other LEDs, four DIP switches. Here is the circuit diagram, if you cannot figure it out. Your task: Find out what this thing is and how it works. Bonus: give a meaningful description for the settings of the switches."

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It will run doom before boxing day.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Am I the only one super unimpressed by most “it can run doom” things? It’s either some beefy arm CPU or a total hack where it isn’t really running doom and they shoved a raspberry pi in it or something.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That is because most things can't run doom without modification. I'm fine with adding stuff but displays and inputs need to be on the hardware and the thing must look like its untampered with. For me it's just a funny magic trick so I'm not that bothered if it's faked

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I feel almost entirely the opposite about this. I feel like adding a display or inputs is fine, but if you want to say you have Doom running on a toaster then it damn well better be running on a chip that's actually in the toaster! If you just stuff a Pi in a toaster then it's not really the toaster running Doom at all, it's a Raspberry Pi in a toaster suit. I feel like "can it run Doom" is interesting when it shows that common devices have more powerful chips in them than you realize and that somebody hacked it to run arbitrary code. It's sort of an interesting metric to show how far we've come with computers, and how optimized Doom can be... I personally don't find it that interesting if you're just shoving a single board computer into a weird form factor, and it always just feels like clickbait to me.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago

I'm glad we all had this thought together. "Can we make this run doom...?" It's rare that the answer is truly no, but this is probably a case.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

With scalpers being especially prevelant in the tech scene (hello pi), being sold out just doesn't have the same ring to it anymore you know?

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Eh, for the company making them it still has that same old Ca-ching sound

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Just the one time though.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

Is this what they use to power those cheap android tablets you get from wish?

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes you just want a nibble

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

Just a lil bit

[–] 7of9@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

What is this a computer for ants? It should be at least ... four times bigger.

[–] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 27 points 9 months ago

This seems like a great computer to use in schools to teach how a computer works

[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 25 points 9 months ago

Can't wait for the Skyrim release

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

This is gonna be on a “rate my setup” post any minute now.

[–] Crul@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

For those curious about 1-bit computers, see Usagi Electric's playlist:

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[–] downhomechunk@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago

Oh man, I just discovered this guy recently. I'm way into his bendix project. I really hope he gets the thing running and shows us what he can do with it.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Funny it could sell out when it looks like 4 7400 logic chips that could be wired up on a breadboard.

[–] Municipal0379@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Okay, but will it run doom??

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They mention in the article that it won't :(

[–] jmd_akbar@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm not mad... I'm just disappointed...

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You just wait!

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it's about 15 bits short.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] midori@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Imagine having to build a hardware cluster just to run Doom.

I hope somebody reads this and does it lmao

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Somebody wrote an FPGA that plays level 1. No processor, just a great big mess of programmed wires.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Now make it in hardware (asic)

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I mean if the FPGA is done an asic would be doable, but someone would need to REALLY want to do it.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago

That's cute. Fun.

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