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[–] stanka@lemmy.ml 97 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Browser save-as-type to the rescue.

Firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/image-converter/

Chrome too, but find it yourself if you are still using that.

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[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 88 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Webp is actually a decent format, it's just that a certain desktop OS used by roughly 70% of people chooses to not support it

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

decent format

poorly supported

Hmm. I know what you mean but wide support is like 90% of the usefulness for a general image format.

[–] sock@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

its kinda like linux, its great and everybody loves it

but only 2% of people use it

as lemmy shows those 2% realllllly like it.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Don't I know it, as a decade+ Linux user. Technically best thing doesn't always win the popularity contest. For a general use operating system lack of software (and game) support is a similar issue as lack of support for image format and it's really harming Linux too.

[–] stanka@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Steamdeck has really pushed devs to make their games linux compatible. Native would be nice. But this is great. I haven't booted into windows for games for most of the year.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Valve has been a real blessing for Linux. I haven't had a dual boot system in many years but some games just doesn't work or needs fiddling. And while I'm fine with that, I know most aren't. And that's fine too. Maybe someday.

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[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 17 points 10 months ago

many android applications including Facebook messenger don't support it either

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world's android app doesn't fully support it. I frequently get broken link image and never get animation. I know it can work because the same posts work in the Thundarr Lemmy app.

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[–] only0218@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

*It isn't as decent when you look at it's raw facts but for the web it's a step into future.

*Now behold of avif!

! please can we just get jxl for web finally...? !<

[–] itsnotits@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

at its* raw facts

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] IamRoot@sh.itjust.works 35 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes.

(Ok there might be a lossy mode but that is barely better than jpg via mozjpeg)

[–] IamRoot@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (7 children)
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[–] Empathy@beehaw.org 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really like WEBP.

It supports transparency, animations, and compression, and seems to look really good even with very strong compression. It's a shame that, despite it coming out 13 years ago, it's still barely supported by so much software.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 7 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Sounds to me like people need to stop supporting software that doesn't take the time to update. WEBP is great, and I haven't run into a single program that doesn't support it, personally.

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 35 points 10 months ago (8 children)

ffmpeg -i file.webp file.png

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

99% of the images I save are used as a desktop background at work for a day or two.

.webp doesn't work as a windows desktop background.....

I end up just screenshoting and cropping.

.webp is great until you need to use anything that wasn't built with it in mind. Lots of stuff just never bothered adding support.

[–] Pantless_Paladin@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can just open it on paint and save as .png

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[–] YoorWeb@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It annoys me that Firefox won't autoplay animated webp, at least ones in Lemmy posts, unless I open a whole new tab just for the fucking .webp

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[–] cake@lemmings.world 16 points 10 months ago
[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

There is an easy fix though. Just open the image in Gimp and then export it as a jpeg or PNG.

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Spending up to a minute or more opening a huge-ass program to just convert one single image doesn't seem exactly elegant to me. Maybe it's easy but it's also a bit of a pain.

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[–] CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

convert image.webp image.png in your terminal should do the trick, if you're on Linux

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[–] 768@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Webp images can be a pain in the ass to work with because many programs don't support them.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is this a Windows thing I'm too Linux to understand?

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[–] 768@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Which programs don't support webp exactly?

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In my case, Illustrator and XD, which I use a lot. One of the best features of XD is the ability to drag and drop images into placeholders but I can't do that with webp. In Illustrator, importing a webp file crashes the app.

[–] 768@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

For a program costing US$22.99/mo crashing and not accepting webp, which is so abundant, is extrem. Especially crashing for such an expensive program is not acceptable.

[–] calculuschild@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Illustrator supports webp for a couple years now.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Must be on my end then. I tried opening one just now and it still crashes.

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[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Open with gimp -> export as -> export as png -> export

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago

You over estimate the amount of effort I'm willing to put into saving memes

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[–] corus_kt@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I disabled webp in firefox and still had to get a secondary image converter extension to get around this format, I wish I could opt out forever.

Legitimately amazing compression for gifs, but isn't supported for shit outside of the browser it comes in, be it editing images or upload to older online galleries. Good luck to anyone who just renames the file format to png/jpeg, now you have no idea what's actually the correct format when you need it... I used to think that was a good idea, until I faced programs that would not run 'renamed' formats whatsoever.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

What were you thinking with the whole extension renaming ruse?!

But anyway, I've done that too.

I think it's a matter of time. MP3s were not support by many tools when it first came out.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

You know when you were a kid and the was a toy in a clamshell of plastic that was super hard to tear?

It's a bit like that, but with less chance of slicing your thumb open

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Why are people converting .webp to png with a program!? Just rename the file with the .png extension and it'll work. Try it.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

I like it in concept, but not in practice. Way too many programs inexplicably can't read it and it's annoying as shit.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A pain in the ass. Up next is jpegXL. If it’s backwards compatible with jpeg, great. If it’s not, then it can fuck off too.

[–] NamelessGO@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Still will require apps to be compatible with it, otherwise we are looking another case of webp problems

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