Yes. It's happened to me and it is a head fuck. The email was from a business with a perfectly legit email address.
this post was submitted on 28 Jul 2023
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You haven't mentioned what email provider they're using. That matters a lot. Not all providers have smart filter. No need to attribute to malice what can be explained by reason.
Yes, and even more chance of that happening today than 5 years ago. Reason: because of the modern day prevalence of the 'fake reply' SPAM and Phishing emails. Spammers and phishers are now drafting fresh messages mocked up to look like replies in existing email threads...older spam detection used to let these types of messages slip through because they thought they must be legitimate replies, and so naturally spammers started exploiting that to slip past detection. Modern detection no longer gives apparant replies a free pass.
Absolutely. Ask Apple. Even the “VIP” all end up in the spam folder all the time too, and there’s no way to tell it “this isn’t spam”.
Doesn’t moving to out of the spam folder tell it?
Unfortunately, no. There are a handful of emails, that no matter what I do, always go to the spam folder. I was told making them VIP would keep them out of the spam folder, but I can say with certainty that’s not true.
In my experience, yes. When I finally got the official job offer from a HR person I'd previously communicated with, the email landed in spam.
I had an email go to spam in the middle of a discussion with my insurance company. Even though I had already had 5 exchanges with them.
Yes. Email basically makes no sense whatsoever, it's a rotten pile of hacks on hacks on hacks that's been around for decades. Anything can end up anywhere.
It shouldn't, but it can, had it happen a bare handful of times but it's really rare.
Yes, but the mail provider/software you're using and a bunch of other variables do play the role in this equation.
A suggestion: to confirm it, have a test conversation with somoene and mark the last message as SPAM, to see how your environment is going to react.
Absolutely NEVER mark anything from an online email provider you want to keep as spam. They use shared systems, it's not just spam for you, but potentially for everyone on that email provider. That's one way to protect people from receiving spam, 100 users marked that same newsletter email as spam? Alright, the newsletter will go to the spam folder for the next 20k users.
If you mark legitimate emails as spam for fun you're fucking up the system (and give the sender a massive headache if suddenly every @gmail.com receiver puts their emails into the spam folder).
Absolutely NEVER mark anything from an online email provider you want to keep as spam.
Set up temporary email account for the purpose of test, write to yourself, mark as spam, check how it works, forget about it.
Done.
Best case: This achieves absolutely nothing.
Worst case: Your 'temporary' email account gets banned for spamming (new account, first email sent is marked as spam by receiver). Then your original email account is banned too for ban evasion (same IP, same browser fingerprint, they know it's you).
Just don't mess with the spam filters on a server that doesn't belong to you.
You shouldn't be working in IT. If you do, then your salary is wasted.
Ah well, I have plenty of uses for my salary. Though I'm a software developer, so that's more like ITish.
I also run my own mail server with a self-learning spam filter, so I know how easy it is to mess that one up.
You totally shouldn't work in IT and if you do, it's a waste of money.
my own server
Turnkey > download relevant ISO > install on some computer > set up basics and an admin account
Woooooooooooooooooow, what a flex. You should definitely think about Silicon Valley startup with that experience of yours...
Absolutely yes. Even if you have marked all their previous emails as non-spam manually.