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In a tense game of chicken, remarkable for its mix of petulance and audacity, congressional Republicans are threatening to halt U.S. aid to Ukraine—guaranteeing a Russian breakthrough and possible victory in that war—unless Democrats help pass a bill that all but locks down America’s Southern border.

If the impasse isn’t resolved by the end of next week, when Congress goes on recess until the new year, the Ukrainian army could run out of ammunition. President Joe Biden could resupply the arsenal from U.S. stockpiles without legislative approval, but the move would be temporary, and the signal sent—that Ukraine, and by implication other allies, can no longer count on U.S. support in a pinch—could be a holiday cork-popper for Russian President Vladimir Putin and all of our other adversaries.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 126 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (68 children)

Throughout history, conservatives have always supported genocide. Harming the vulnerable brings genuine joy to conservatives. You can see this in their movies, comedy and news media. They thrive on the misery of others.

Be careful in your dealings with conservatives. They do not value the lives of others the way a normal person does.

[–] hh93@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

The most basic difference between "left" and "right" on the political spectrum is that left-leaning people believe every human is worth the same and should get the same chances while right wing people believe humans are fundamentally different and the ones on the top deserve their place as much as the ones on the bottom.

That's also why so many libertarians (or just recently proclaimed anarcho capitalists) are actually right-wing since they believe in unequal distribution of chances and quality of life based on capitalist principles and it's also why moderates that claim to be neither right nor left usually lean more right

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[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 96 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Republicans are scumbags. If you're a republican reading this, ask yourself what it is about your brain that makes you support true evil.

Do you feel small inside? Like you didn't get what you wanted from life, so now others should suffer?

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The answer is that conservative thinking is driven by fear. It's not that liberals don't fear things, it's that liberal thinking isn't driven primarily by fear.

[–] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is a stupid question, but what is connection of fear-based thinking and not surprising Ukraine or supporting Putin?

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 15 points 11 months ago

The Republican base is taught to fear. Fear liberals, fear diversity, fear whatever they're told to fear. A generation ago they were told to fear Russia, so we opposed Russians with all our strength. They're told the only salve for their fear is a strong leader.

Now, today, Putin presents himself as a strong leader and suddenly Russia is no longer to be feared but admired. So what that he wants to rebuild the Soviet Union by invading the nations around him? Trump says he's a good guy, so obviously when he says he's invading Ukraine for their own good he must be telling the truth.

They follow anyone who presents themselves as strong and confident because that allays their fears somewhat. And since their current leaders like Russia and don't like Ukraine, that's what they're supporting.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

The fear is that a trans! woman might sneak up behind you at the urinal and sodomize you!

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 73 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, we have to closely watch the dollars spent on this war, from the very same party that had no problem funding the Afghanistan and Iraq wars and letting them go on indefinitely...and the very same party that used to be so staunchly anti-Russia.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

Russian State TV ran celebratory pieces when the House elected Johnson as speaker. He's been in their pocket for a while.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it really a gift if you paid for it?

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm surprised stopping immigration is so high on the Republicants handlers lists right now, considering there's not enough people willing to work menial jobs as-is and that doesn't seem to be changing.

[–] pastaq@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (6 children)

They found a loophole. They don't need adults to do those jobs anymore. Unaccompanied minors aren't turned away at the border and multiple states are removing child labor laws. Now we have unaccompanied immigrant children working fun time making cars in Ford and GM factories, Cheerios, and all sorts of other things for pennies, all here in the US.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They aren't working for Ford or GM. What the fuck with this? Even if the companies wanted to, the unions wouldn't stand for it. I'm going to need a reputable source for this.

Edit: Or downvotes. That's a perfectly reasonable way to respond to doubt and incredulity.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Their example was a bit simplistic. They are working in the supply chain and several other, less unionized, industries like meat packing and processed food.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

The free market / capitalist part of the GOP is dead and gone. They don't care about labor, the budget, spending, anything - they just care about getting power and keeping power. They also don't really intend to do anything they claim to care about, it's all just about fluffing up the base.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

The faction of Republicans that now firmly control the House have ties to Russia. Don't forget all the stuff we've learned in the last 7 years. This isn't good faith.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Biden has pulled off other victories in the past that we all thought were dead.

Let's hope he can do it again.

[–] Haywire@lemm.ee 46 points 11 months ago

A victory that will solidify China and Russia and embolden them against Taiwan, moving us straight into WW3. A little deterrence could go a long way right now.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the republican traitor filth. We must hold the traitors to account!

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago

Seriously. They are insanely fucking compromised. Anti-american trash who don't deserve to live here anymore.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the impasse isn’t resolved by the end of next week, when Congress goes on recess until the new year

You ever notice how many of these critical bills come up and the news is like "they have 25 minutes to negotiate before Congress goes on one of its biannual 5 month vacations"? Like, I know the theory is that they're supposed to spend that time in their districts dealing with their constituents but by show of hands does anyone feel like their congressperson actually gives any sort of a wet shit about them or their district?

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[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is what happens when you get locked into having only two major viable political parties. This shit is going to continue unless the American political system is reformed to allow multiple viable parties, for example with ranked-choice or approval voting.

~~Both parties~~ Apparently just fucking Republicans will fight against this tooth and nail.

[–] cheesebag@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Both parties

Sorry, but that's not true at all.

Democrats have consistently been the ones to institute RCV in the US, including in North Carolina, until Republicans repealed it. Like it or not, if you want rights these days, you need to vote Democrat.

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[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

‘What is happening is not organic’

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