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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 50 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Swede here, I worked at an American/Global company's internal IT helpdesk for 4,5 years, and I can't say that I have ever met an american I have actually disliked, at worst I felt ambivalent, but for the most part I just felt generally positive towards them.

Worst users I have worked with based on nationallity tend to be people from UK, it was not unusual for them to act slightly superior to us lowly IT servants, don't get me wrong, most Brits I have met are great guys, but when working with some of them, they seem to be stuck in a strict classist society and be very much aware of that we were below them, which does not work in Sweden.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Very similar experience with Americans. I've spent about 6 months in the country over my life so far. Lovely folks generally. We get loads of American tourists here and they're all lovely.

Obviously there's the occasional cunt but sure everywhere has those.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Americans think everyone else hates them when in fact it's usually just all the countries they've lost wars to.

Europeans literally couldn't care less what the Americans think of them because our day to day lives are so much better in almost every sense, and all they could come up with is "Europoors" 😂

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Europeans literally couldn’t care less what the Americans think of them

Ah that's a bit harsh. I like Americans. Americans like the Irish. I like that we like each other. Makes the world a nicer place to have other nations friendly to you.

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[–] Jank 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No no, I think everyone else is lurking in the dark and wringing their gloved hands as they salivate and plot to take my precious freedoms.

[–] drasticpotatoes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

Not my freedumbs!

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[–] Jyrdano@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That has been my (limited) experience as well. For me as an extremely introverted European, visiting US was quite a culture shock.

All the American people I’ve met have been very kind, easy to approach and hold a conversation with, and ready to help out a stranger in need. Honestly the last part was what stick out with me the most. Here in my country, I have no doubt that if I collapsed on the street, there would be 10 people stepping over my body before someone decided to check if I needed help.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

America has horrible social services, but the reality is that everyone needs help now and then. Since we can't count on government to help out, we minds have to fill the gap with private non-profits and personal giving.

In a way it's great so see people willing to help others, but the problem is that we can't help but discriminate in how we help each other.

And we're shockingly conflict-averse on the individual level. We value being friendly and non-confrontational over pretty much anything else. And that brings a host of problems.

One of the big ones is our desire to stay civil creates a false echo chamber for many people. They think that everyone agrees with them because nobody openly disagrees. And that can get dangerous.

When someone tells a racist joke, you nervously smile and nod to avoid staring a fight over an "impolite" topic, and you've accidentally encouraged bad behavior. That behavior is repeated until it becomes normalized, and then it escalates.

We've somehow managed to be so friendly and kind we're sliding backwards on civil rights. We're weird.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to Spain again next year, and mostly what I've read is that the Brits are the least liked tourists there, and I'm so thrilled. I mean, I've never had issues anywhere because I know how to behave myself and don't really travel with the intent to party, but it'll be nice not to to be starting from so far behind this time.

[–] Globulart@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Spain is one of the cheaper holiday destinations for brits. A lot of our worst holidaymakers are making their holidays in Spain.

We truly are cunts as a group when given a warm evening and decently priced alcohol.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have had similar experiences on a personal basis, but my American colleagues have such an unhealthy attitude about work that working alongside them becomes very trying. No hate to them - they're trapped in an awful employment system that leaves them little choice.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The protestant work ethic is one hell of a drug. It was eye opening to learn just how much more vacation and time off European coworkers had. It would make me jealous when I needed a response from them on something but they were on holiday yet again. The joke at the office was that nothing could get done in the summer because all the Europeans were on vacation.

Personally, I would much prefer the European system, and it seems that's something young Americans generally agree on. If people prefer to make more money/pay less in taxes but have less time off , then let them. Just give us a choice.

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[–] yourgodlucifer@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Hmm I've worked several customer service jobs (I am american) and always felt like the non-americans were nicer to me.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Aww. All the Swedes I have met have been somewhat preternaturally nice people with somehow a better grasp of English than me.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago

This made me remember a call I had with a American VIP at the company I worked at, he had put me on speaker as I helped him with his laptop while he was working at home, and his wife broke in at the end of the call complementing my English.

They were both surprised to learn that I was Swedish since I have managed to train myself to loose much of the classic Swedish accent when speaking English.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

German here.

I dislike the US government and their imperialist politics. The focus on being a "superpower" just makes you look like super-assholes.

I like the people from the US. They are generally honest and friendly, albeit a bit loud. Your concept of private space and mine differ greatly.

[–] Littleborat@feddit.de 11 points 9 months ago

I would have agreed with you 20 years ago but seeing the current alternative to the US being team America, superpower of assholes. I kind of want to go back in time.

Americans being loud and shouting private stuff in the cafeteria for everyone to hear is a thing, but what would life be without these comedic moments?

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, you're essentially saying that Europeans have the ability to distinguish reality from fantasy?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 5 points 9 months ago

Fantasy?

It's based on the daily life of Florida Man. Just like Far Cry 5 used real life footage from Montana.

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

If I don't get to use a baby alligator as a weapon I'll be deeply disappointed with rockstar, I want to relive my favourite Florida man story.

[–] djangenerate 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah if that's the drive-thru one.

[–] FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This exchange made me realize the Florida Man is an American mythos older than the Karen. The Internet is writing its own mythology lmao

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Florida man and Florida woman are my 2 favourite superheros. There's nothing they can't do.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 21 points 9 months ago

Honestly, it almost feels like the main characters are more normal than the common Floridian.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

That's the thing I hate about the trailer. It feels more like saints row, but one actually based on reality.

What made GTA great was it's parody of Hollywood tropes of the eighties/nineties. A parody that was a hyper statement of normality.

This GTA is taking actual Florida men/women notheonion stories and aggrandizing them in fiction.

Saints row used to be the over the top 'Murica Fuck yeah', trashy culture glorifying spin off.

I hate how the parody is slipping and saints row and real life are more and more indistinguishable. That's not fun to me, it's deeply disconcerting and I will not partake.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Sometimes when you stare at a mirror, the mirror stares back at you…

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hate how the parody is slipping and saints row and real life are more and more indistinguishable.

I think that's the fault of real life, more than the game.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago

I'm not assigning guilt here. I am personally more apt to indulge in a lovely corney 80's storyline with moustaches and such, rather than reality.

But yeah i think parody ihas disappeared, reality is weirder.

[–] Logical@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How is this a political meme?

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Everything is politics. Everything.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I vote for this guy

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't appear to contain political content (at least to me, how is this political to you though?)

I am not the arbiter of what is political or not though, I'm just also curious as to why this isn't in c/memes, but it deserves the upvotes imo

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nations and states are inherently political bodies.

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[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

because it's hilarious, letting go of social rules for once in your life in a space where you can hurt no one but some bits in your RAM. haha handheld minigun go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just saying there are places you can pay to fire a mini gun.

Not at cops, but it's pretty fun.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

Yes... in the US.

That's kind-of the point. Europeans get to play at being a slightly-exaggerated version of an American, living out their fantasies about letting go of all their inhibitions. But, they wouldn't want to actually live in a place like that. Americans can put down the game, but then have to live in a place where an average Joe can go pay to fire a mini gun, then go to Wal*Mart and buy an AR-15 just for funsies.

[–] drasticpotatoes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Reading the comments on this meme reminds me why I love Lemmy so much. People from all over the world having an interesting and reasonable discussion about cultural misconceptions.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Thanks for making this a great place to visit.

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As someone who lives in Europe, this is accurate.

We smugly lambast Americans for having lower standards; but it's because they're not Florida Man and we Europeans yearn to be Florida Man.

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[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
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