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he takes a couple pages to explain why he know that sightings of UFOs aren't alien because he can simply infer how superintelligent beings will operate + how advanced their technology is. he then undercuts his point by saying that he's very uncertain about both of those things, but wraps it up nicely with an excessively wordy speech about how making big bets on your beliefs is the responsible way to be a thought leader. bravo

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I should probably also say: Kids, don't try this at home ($150K bets at 150:1 odds) unless you have read the literature on expert overconfidence, and tested your own calibration repeatedly.

I heard Yud got some ribs removed so he could “test his own calibration”

[–] elmtonic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

lol i missed that in the thread

expert overconfidence

pretty sure it's just regular overconfidence here. unless yud is claiming to be an expert on fucking aliens

[–] ogoftheskye@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Noob here. Finding the aesthetics of LW interesting. White, serif fonts... purity, beautiful rational authority.

[–] self@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago

I forget how it used to look, but the current design falls into the Wikipedia uncanny valley for me, most likely on purpose

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This word salad ("supervast majority" - wat?) seems to be inspired by this LW post

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/t5W87hQF5gKyTofQB/

The intersection of UFO nuts and rats should be glorious. The fact that Yud takes this seriously instead of just ignoring this idiot is proof that SF brainworms are the foundation for this community's worldview.

Broke: "There's no way UFOs are aliens duh"

Woke: "P/S/B: UFOs are almost certainly not aliens, and this is knowable with study and thought. ... the aliens would have harvested the Solar System for matter and energy ... they could literally just rewrite our brains ... the supervast majority of probable alien intellects ... GPT-4 ... covid ... the way experts and authorities would do it in a saner world, by betting $150,000 ... My present worldview is a grim one ... I'm no superintelligent alien myself ... on Earth, of course, it falls to me instead ... Kids, don't try this at home ... since this counterparty is an unknown they paid their money in advance ... UFOs are held in disrepute ... maybe because blah blah Prime Directive or whatever ... not something we generated as a convergent instrumental strategy by blind forward reasoning ... namely religion ... posing as Yeshua does not represent an optimal alien strategy ... being only clever as Eliezer thinking for five minute ... "Skeptics" will of course claim that all the Dreams are just psychosomatic ... the mysterious Being of Light who appears in dreams ... no recording the millionth binary digit of pi in 1000 BCE ... I conclude that UFOs are not a minimally interventionist, doubt-leaving strategy which maximizes the status of any particular or general aliens in the eyes of humanity."

(P.S. What does P/S/B mean?)

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did Yud pay for Twitter, or is he blue-checked for some other reason?

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both! He was verified before, but you have to pay for long-form posting. Which he really shouldn't given how much dumber, rambling and incoherent his long form posting reveals him to be.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad to hear that "you paid for Twitter" is a sneer that I can use in all sincerity.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excuuuuuse me it's now "you paid for X"

[–] self@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my brain kept trying to fill in what X was supposed to stand for

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone in the world, including Elon, is wondering the same.