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[–] 7355608@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This magic card immediately jumped to mind.

[–] onion@feddit.de 14 points 11 months ago

Reddit knife enthusiasts be like

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

“…this one is for toast…” 😂🤣😂

That speaks directly to the Fighter in my soul!

[–] IanSomnia@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

One of my favorite Yu-Gi-Oh cards as a kid was essentially this.

Found it.

[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What I love about this post is that the image is actually using the art of a Hearthstone card, Deadly Arsenal. The variation between card games is great and seems to have a central theme lol

[–] Lag_Incarnate@ttrpg.network 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It still amazes me that it's art for the WoW card game considering how often the art was used for various 3.pf homebrew pages, especially considering how much Wayne did in the industry at that time.

[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Oh nice, I didn't know this was from the WoW TCG as well. Hearthstone used a lot of art from it in earlier sets, Chillwind Yeti is a good example of a completely different card and subject matter than its original.

[–] Nikko882@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile my fighter has 18 strength and is encumbered by the items he got from character creation... I don't think 5e did a very good job with encumbrance. There is a reason most people ignore it.

[–] Dee@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yup. When I used to run 5e I made my own homebrew encumbrance system that worked way better then read PF2 rules and got annoyed because this character concept is viable in PF2 and it has an encumbrance system that actually works.

There's held items, stored items, and worn items. Held and worn can be easily accessed but count against your bulk limit. Stored items (in your backpack) count against your bulk less so you can carry more but take longer to access in battle. So if you're strong enough you can literally wear your entire weapon arsenal just like this meme since there's no limit to worn items as long as it's not above your max bulk lol

(Bulk is an abstracted form of weight that makes encumbrance easier to track)

Alright, PF2 rant done. Seeing your frustrations with 5e bulk reminded me of my own when I still ran that system lol

[–] Nikko882@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sounds similar to the system they use in WFRP 4e. Also a system that is very elegant and far better than the system used in DnD 5e. Similarly to PF2e (as far as I gather with a brief search) items are assigned a value between 1-3 and players usually have a carry value of around 6 to begin. Any item that is worn gets -1 and items in backpacks/containers do not count towards the limit (but they have weight/bulk/encumbrance points themselves).

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's not fun. Fuck it. It's a land of magic, that's why my backpack can fit a full suit of armor and 5 swords.

[–] Attaxalotl@ttrpg.network 4 points 11 months ago

Everyone has Link’s pockets

[–] Dee@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

*it's not fun in 5e

Bulk/weight/encumbrance in other systems is handled well and makes it so equipment choices matter more and the players choices have more impact on the game, while not being terribly designed so it feels like a chore (aka 5e)

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Fighter: A new sword! Can I triple wield?

DM: ...

Fighter:

A still from the anime "One Piece" of the character Zoro exhibiting his signature "three sword style" of wielding three katanas. One in each hand and one in his mouth.

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

And 2 bag of holding

[–] Lag_Incarnate@ttrpg.network 7 points 11 months ago

DMG Encumbrance Fighters: Please DM, I can't carry my armor and my weapon without having a -15ft penalty to my movement. I don't even have room for a backpack! PHB Encumbrance Fighters: As long as I can justify it, I can carry three times my body weight in miscellaneous items. Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay characters: I'm not a dwarf, so I literally need a horse to carry my food for me if I want to move in mail armor while holding a shield and basic hand weapon. Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay dwarves: I can wear whatever I want and still carry whatever I want.

[–] Doug@midwest.social 5 points 11 months ago

Not enough robot arms to be Magnus Burnsides

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Can definitely relate to this, I just ordered a new mini for my Fighter from Hero Forge with their Black Friday deal, 2 weapons on the back, 2 weapons on the hips, and one in each hand. It's just not worth it to me to try to sort out the logistics of these sorts of things, because it's not much longer before you start going "By RAW I can carry 150 glass bottles on me and there's no requirement that I have a logical way to store or manage them."

[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

Somewhat related, I've always disliked the RAW for 5e for weapon swapping. Burning your action to swap is pretty outrageous, and having players drop weapons so they can only draw has just been annoying to track in my experience. One free swap per turn's always felt better to me, surprised that's not how it's written in the rules.