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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think your perspective is far too narrow. It’s not science that must save us, science can’t do much in the face of willful ignorance and entitlement.

Just look at global warming, the science has been there since the 70s yet we’re still walking past line after line till we reach points of no return. It’s not about the science it’s about the human element.

Humans themselves are the problem, too divided and focused on wealth and power instead of unity and progress. No fucking shit we haven’t gotten anywhere in the last grand, we’ve been too busy killing/robbing/exploiting each other, and that WILL NEVER STOP.

Tack onto this the fact that we have these insane billionaires and oligarchs across the planet who actively purchase big media and control narratives, working to keep the people divided and distracted. It’s not an accident.

With all that said, there is hope especially when it comes to science and my example with global warming, but will we see it reach fruition or will we see it falter in favor of quarterly profits?

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

You think things changed until 1000 years ago?

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's not enough generations of humans to evolve significantly under 1000 years. Especially since we have been living under relatively no evolutionary pressure to change dogma and violence

[–] derekabutton@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Quite a bit of human development has been in the category of nurture, as opposed to nature. While humans have changed little biologically, I have an "appendage" in my hand that can communicate with an individual in space. Memes replicate and evolve much more quickly than genes do.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While it is true that we have collectively made significant progress with technology, (if that's what you mean by "nurture") it hasn't changed our aggressive behaviour as a species which is what OP was questioning. Sure, we have made significant changes culturally, technologically, and with memes- so what?

[–] derekabutton@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I suggest memes as in the Richard Dawkins original definition, not funny haha memes but shared reproducible culture. We are social creatures, more than any other, and our social development has happened far more quickly than typical evolution ever could.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I think you should take a look at the numbers and perhaps complexity your premise.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Scientists are egotistical too… obsessed with self-promotion and citations.

[–] Xanderill@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Not true. For example, people with epilepsy use to be considered demon possessed, and were sometimes executed. This happened for at least thousands of years. There's a ridiculously long list of examples of how we have come far.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Well, individuals only get 80 years. So you get what we have here.