Boomers say that shit because back when they were young, you could actually advance by working hard in a shitty job. Of course, they pulled the ladder up once they got to the cushy positions.
this post was submitted on 29 Nov 2023
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Back then it was called "a fair days work".
It hasn't been "fair" for a long time.
What's that I hear, you don't want to be on call after hours for no extra pay?
Sounds like you're not much a team player. And only team players get to work here.
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If I get a PhD (which I have to pay for) and work for twenty years in my job, my salary caps out at ~60k.
What field? That's wild to me, and horribly unjust.
Teaching.
I'm sorry to hear that, education is absolutely criminally undervalued by society.
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I had a colleague who loved to opine on a bit of everything including "millennials". He was talking about "soft resignations" and explained them succinctly as "it's when you're annoyed that you're overlooked at work so you don't put any extra effort in don't work any extra hours and only do the minimum and then wonder why you don't get promoted".
It was hilarious but sad how he could just so utterly fail to grasp the point that to me was just staring him right in the face as he struggled to explain. He's an okay guy really, and it's just a shame that his penchant for everything to fit in to nice neat stories with conveniently stupid straw men to beat in each of them really gets in the way of him having any more than the shallowest understanding of the people and world around him.
Some people just don't want to climb the ladder anymore. I'm not soft resigning or quiet quitting by doing exactly my job description and nothing more - I'm settling and content.
I wish this wasn't such a foreign or bad concept to those in business.
My experience in the corporate world has been that working hard, overachieving, and putting in long hours only results in getting more work assigned and those extra hours to become expected. No rewards or recognition or anything beyond more work, and getting negative reviews scores when you stop putting in extra hours and just work 40 a week.
i've never understood the corporate ladder, my goal in life is to work as little as possible while having enough income to live as enjoyable a life as possible.
I wouldn't put it that way. Seems overly pessimistic. I enjoy my work. That's part of the reason I don't want to climb the corporate ladder. It doesn't take long before your day is less work than meetings.
But if you don't set some boundaries, they'll gladly consume your entire life and not even notice. If you have to tell them a reason you can't be available at 6pm today, there's already an issue.
You don't climb the ladder by working hard these days.
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So that they can take their kids to the doctor.
Medicare For All would go far to stop that.
It is time to stop letting your boss hold your child's healthcare hostage.
Amazing how everyone gets so mad at the government providing it instead of only having it because your boss felt gracious enough to not provide the worst possible options for insurance
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You could stick around and try to start a union at your job
Weird fantasy I have is joining a really crappy job and just causing trouble.
Like I have a full time job. But I wonder if I should apply to Walmart, work incredibly half-asssd, and then just actively push a union.
There are unions that have hired folks in the past to do exactly that. I believe it's called "salting." Either way, it's doable.
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There are some people complain, very loudly, when others fail to validate their life choices.
I'll add that the pandemic did a lot to change baselines, priorities, long-range thinking, and more. Basically, a watershed moment for millions of people. The kind of thing that causes a lot of change, social, economic, and otherwise. The kind of thing that scares people who can't cope when society seems to change shape overnight. The article is one of those things.
I think a lot of the people sticking around at one job are the ones with pensions.
You need portable pension plans that move with you job to job and accumulate nonetheless, as we have in the Netherlands
In the US, people working up through the late nineties got pensions specific to whatever company an employee works for. Now there just aren't pensions for any workers.
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- One step further : Unionize
- One step further : Kick your boss out
- One step further : Kick every boss out
My wife and I were discussing how she has worked hard all her life and tried to be a model employee everywhere only to be accused of embezzlement when others stole from her till (and were eventually caught) and casually dismissed and insurance cut off after a lifetime of paying into it. I have dealt with the same sort of treatment when working for others. We're both honest people and naively thought that work was rewarded. It is not.
Either work for yourself or dont work at all. Also, disability insurance and SS are a fucking farce so cover your own ass and quit giving the government your money.
Either work for yourself or dont work at all. Also, disability insurance and SS are a fucking farce so cover your own ass and quit giving the government your money.
How is any of this optional?
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the real solution is to unionize
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As unfortunate as it is, some people really don't have a choice. My dad, for example, gets paid something like 30 an hour, but his job absolutely sucks. He wants to quit, but he knows he can't find a job that will pay the same, especially with how old he's getting.
Unionize, don't be alone, get support, and be supportive
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They say that with the same energy that a slasher villain has when he cusses you out for hiding from him
I'll lick boots for a living if it allows me to afford my own home and support a family on a single income. I imagine I could get very into it.
"I see master is wearing their black versache dress shoes today, excellent choice sir! I will lick them clean all over. Oh, is that shoe polish? You shouldn't have!" slurp slurp
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Whiney voice: "But I want my workers to worship me!!"
-- some boss, probably.
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