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[–] TheMechanic@lemmy.ca 37 points 10 months ago

I used to work in manufacturing. One place used the Japanese standard of manufacturing with paper based progress gates and faxing copies to other sections. They also paid cash for any outside contracts. The whole system worked flawlessly. Those negatives are not as bad as they seem.

[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I see cash as an absolute win

[–] ma11en@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As someone who worked in shops for many years, cash is disgusting and should be burned!

[–] centof@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Think about how digital movies and games are routinely locked and blocked. Do you want the government to be able to do that to all of your liquid cash?

[–] corus_kt@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I get your point, but if your government is already screwing up the economy - hoarding physical cash is no better. See African countries and India's 2016 cash crisis: massive queues at the bank for worthless paper.

[–] runblack@reddthat.com 8 points 10 months ago

It's not about hoarding cash. It's about privacy and surveillance. Cash is the only truly anonymous means of payment.

[–] smotherlove@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why is cash society a bad thing???

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm not against cash, but being cash only would be a nightmare.

Cash is filthy, and it takes time to have to look through and work out (for all stakeholders). It costs money to secure it as well. It wears out over time and has to be minted.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What's wrong with paper filling or cash society?

[–] avocado@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

Eh paper filing is meh imo. Cash is great though!!!

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Paper filing is a nightmare. Imagine filling forms manually, stamping them over and over again for a simple contract that could have been e-signed.

Also on a higher level, digitization of records is a huge plus.

[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

Cash society is better than a card one for homeless people

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

30 years ago, Japan was a glimpse into what life would be like in 20 years.

Now, Japan is a glimpse into what life was like 20 years ago.

[–] _Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de 16 points 10 months ago
[–] HeapOfDogs@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

The cash thing is becoming way less true. The toilets are legit magic though.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They really still use floppy disks?

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, not publicly. The last manufacturer of diskettes in Japan (Sony, I believe) shut down production several years ago.

Conversely, there is still infrastructure In America that requires 5" floppies and Windows 3.11 installs or else some critical system will fail.

Society at large in both countries no longer uses them.

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What kind of infrastructure is like that in the US? I worked in IT for one of the largest power companies in the country and the worst we had was win2000 in one location that was being decommissioned anyway.

[–] IanAtCambio@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

First of all, they used 8" floppies, which were even older.

Second, they recently finally upgraded.

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Believe me, these are the least of Japan's problems.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

True, but considering the amount of data leaks recently, sometimes old tech is more secure.

[–] avocado@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Tbh I’d say they’re way less cash-based than believe to be. Obviously just my experience but most places take visa or Suica from Tokyo to Hiroshima to Kanazawa and everything in between.