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[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well yeah. 1. They've now been raised on this shit and 2. They haven't been raised to understand the value of money.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago
  1. Look at the state of new releases

It’s much better use of money to invest in a game they like than it is to buy a new one

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm with you on both points. Kids don't know anything lol.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Kids know what they’re taught.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

Right but depending on their environment, may not be much.

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yup Ubisoft, Epic, EA, Acti-Blizzard,etc and 99% of mobile game makers are decades into conditioning people to accept this shit.

First DLC, then microtransactions, in-game currencies, live service games, item shops, NFTs, ads, while releasing incomplete copy-paste games so now the apology letter, day 0 patch and promise of a roadmap for a shitty unoptimized new game is part of the experience.

Fuck these companies, we need to support the AA companies, the indie developers and a very few still decent studios who are against this bullshit.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

Toss in the really active advertising around sports betting and you got the makings of the ideal human for companies to extract as much money from.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago

Meanwhile you have MUCH smaller devs releasing awesome games and sometimes even free updates etc. Stuff like Stardew Valley has probably hundreds of hours of gameplay (and more if you install free fanmade mods)... the original game was released by one guy.

I do a little bit of napkin math and see that I've got 50+ hours of gameplay from Vampire Survivors which I paid $4 on sale. 200+ hours out of Stardew Valley which I paid $15 for. 500+ hours out of Caveblazers which I paid $1 for.

I'm to the point where I'm not going to fuck with AAA until it is on sale. I don't see the value.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

In other news, people are dumb af for accepting subscription model gaming (and software in general). But thanks to apathy and ignorace it's what we have.

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This seems pretty normal to me. I used to get a 6 month WoW sub for my birthday in summer and then again at Christmas and that was what, over 15 years ago. Also I was an adult, but still, hobby supplies are a great gift.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

People also forget how prevalent games like Club Penguin and Wizard 101 were at the time. Kids wanting subscriptions and MTX may be more popular now but it's not really a new phenomenon

Also yu gi oh and pokemon cards were literally gambling

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep. I begged my parents for a RuneScape membership as a kid. Now I pay for my own subscriptions. If someone wanted to buy me a game time card for FFXIV though, I would be far from upset

[–] nueonetwo@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Did the same for FFXI but game cards didn't exist so I had to beg for my dad's cc number which was a huge deal in 04.

I keep telling my family to just give me steam cards for Christmas but they don't like giving gift cards cause there's "no thought" but don't understand that I don't buy physical games anymore.

[–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cutting Sapphires for 100gp

[–] WiseThat@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago

Nah, no way, you're getting free XP out of the cutting.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, fairly when I was young we had Neopets/Gaia and RuneScape.

I think this just shows that there are far more of these style of services that have become popular. You like a game, that game has a deep array of content, you spend money to "get it all". It's fucked up but it makes sense.

[–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 2 points 9 months ago

The days of asking my parents to change the Club Membership to a Runescape membership.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

This is so true. I've spent more money on FIFA, fortnite, and Roblox currency by far for my son than actual games

[–] LeafTheTreesAlone@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

In a way this is the same as money to them, just a new generation concept of money. Where older generations use money to buy physical items, they use simulated ingame currency to buy digital items.