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LoglineUhura seems to be the only one who can hear a strange sound. When the noise triggers terrifying hallucinations, she enlists an unlikely assistant to help her track down the source.

Written by Onitra Johnson & David Reed

Directed by Dan Liu

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[–] UESPA_Sputnik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

An okay episode.

Finally Una got to do something instead of being completely on the sidelines. The whole ensemble got something to do, except Ortegas who slowly turns into SNW's Travis Mayweather: that one cast member that is just there physically but doesn't get anything to do.

My personal highlight was the scene were Spock and Chapel play chess, and he passive-aggressively pushes her to play faster. Very Vulcan.

What irked me: everyone and their mother immediately started calling the First Officer of another Starfleet ship by his first name. That was weird.

Another weird thing was Pike's promotion to Fleet Captain. We've never seen this in Star Trek, particularly not when it's just two ships on a mission. So I checked the transcript of The Menagerie were Kirk speaks about the one time he met Captain Pike. And there it is:

MENDEZ: You ever met Chris Pike?
KIRK: When he was promoted to Fleet Captain.

SNW's producers were sneaky with that one. I'm both annoyed and impressed.

[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

My personal highlight was the scene were Spock and Chapel play chess, and he passive-aggressively pushes her to play faster. Very Vulcan.

My favourite scene too. I am glad they only got one scene together this episode to avoid it veering too hard into the soapy relationshipy aspects after last week. But damn those are two well-written, well-acted characters with insane chemistry - they gave them one scene together, playing chess no less, and it stole the whole episode.

[–] angstrom@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The whole ensemble got something to do, except Ortegas who slowly turns into SNW’s Travis Mayweather: that one cast member that is just there physically but doesn’t get anything to do.

I get the feeling the writers don't really know what to do with Ortegas beyond that she "flies the ship".

[–] triktrek@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

She also delivers the many one-line commentaries on dire situations. It's funny at first, but it does get old pretty quickly.

[–] Hogger85b@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

"I fly the ship"

[–] ikesau@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zombie Hemmer was freaky! Nicely done, wardrobe/makeup.

This clearly took a lot from TNG's Night Terrors right? A bit of Firefly's Bushwhacked in there too.

I liked it overall, but my favourite Star Trek episodes are when the crew gets to use their extreme competency to overcome a difficult challenge. This episode, the crew was... not so competent.

  • Una's team can't identify that there's been sabotage even though it's just like, phaser blasts from a half-deranged man
  • The dude easily escapes from sick bay and blows up a nacelle (had the stun setting not been invented yet? What about locked doors?)
  • There's no way the medical team could keep Uhura around and try to do some tests when she's having an episode, they can only put on the brain scan screensaver
  • They can't shut down the dang refinery! The lever's stuck and they're out of WD-40!
  • Pike blows up the quadrillion dollar infrastructure project immediately, not even just targeted laser blasts to the parts that are doing the murder. The whole thing has to blow up.

I guess this is just trek being trek and I shouldn't take it so seriously. Emotionally, the crew was at the top of their game: intuitive, perceptive, empathetic, trusting. good stuff.

But yeah, I feel like I would have enjoyed this more had the problem been made more difficult instead of the crew less capable.

[–] marian@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

They can’t shut down the dang refinery! The lever’s stuck and they’re out of WD-40!

I actually had the least problem with that. It's entirely plausible that huge machines can't just turned off in an instant. Even real life nuclear reactors need something like +12 hours even for an emergency shutdown. A city-sized space-refinery probably has so much momentum in it's spinning parts that it is faster to just shoot that thing.

[–] forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Pike once again demonstrates his faith in the crew without second guessing Uhuras decisions. What a boss.

[–] lonlazarus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know if it was intentional as to be a call back to TOS, but I loved the absolutely senseless way nobody secures potentially dangerous actors that are in sick bay.

[–] felixxx999@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

I'm starting to get DS9 vibes among the crew. I'm liking that things are complicated. This season doesn't feature Pike much, does it? DS9 of course handled politics and religion well and I suspect SNW is steering clear. I knew that (blank) would return but I didn't expect him to be a decomposing corpse.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ramon froze pretty quickly out there in space. Wasn’t it only a couple of weeks ago this show was trying to convince us people could survive in space without a suit for two whole minutes?

[–] kargarocP4@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah star trek right now really can't seem to decide whether "space is cold" or not.

Of course, that's because the truth has just alittle bit of nuance to it, and nuance is hard for writers.
Space can be cold, depending on where you are, but its also barely even there. No atmosphere means no convection, and that means you're gonna be losing heat much too slowly for it to be your number one problem if you've just been spaced without a suit.

[–] XiberKernel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This was the weakest episode of the season so far, and I still loved it. I couldn’t get over the fact Uhura wasn’t confined to sickbay or quarters by mid episode, but the rest of it showcases why SNW is quickly becoming my favorite Trek series.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I like that they did the Kirk/Spock meet as an almost throwaway thing, rather than trying to make it a big deal. We already know it's a big deal, so any attempt to increase the drama would've made it cheesy, IMO. Plus, we've had lots of media about their friendship, already: we know it inside out. Instead, we got to focus on Kirk's relationship with a different legacy character, one that hasn't already been explored to anywhere near the same extent.

Although, on that note... was anyone else hoping the 'doctor on the Farragut' Kirk referred to was going to lead to a cameo from Bones? I don't remember if they served together pre-Enterprise, so it might not have been strictly canon!

[–] zpm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Great episode with serious and feel good moments.

Watching Kirk and Spock meet was fun.

[–] felixxx999@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Nurse Chapel fiddling with a butt plug while playing with Spock. I will show myself out.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This /r/Daystrom thread from last year is kinda funny, the OP correctly predicts how Pike and Kirk meet, but then he and most of the commenters dismiss it as "unlikely".

This leads us to three possibilities

  1. Pike was promoted to Fleet Captain and Kirk took over Command from him as a result, which is where they met. Traditionally, especially in many of the novels, thats when the met before.
  2. Kirk met him on two distinct occasions, firstly when Pike became Fleet Captain and secondly, when he took over Command (its possible that the order was reversed).
  3. Kirk met him on at least two notable occasions, which he mentions.

With James T being confirmed for Season 2 and Sam being on the ship and friendly with Pike, enough to call him "Chris", no 3 seems to be the most likely answer

It's a fun thread to scroll through now that we know this episode.

[–] Acid@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Overall a solid episode, a little different but ultimate felt very core Star Trek TOS with strange alien life and coming to a resolution.

Paul Wesley continues to impress me in the role of James T Kirk but his character did not need to be in this episode, they need to be careful with how they use him going forward.

[–] triktrek@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SNW is such a good show with strong cast and characters and storylines. They totally can stand on their own without trying to bring back legacy characters or storylines. I am not sure why the producers seem to be hell bent on trying to weave these characters back in.

[–] Acid@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed, I didn't mind Kirk being in A Quality of Mercy or Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow. However, him being in this episode just felt he was in it for the sake of it.

[–] Borgzilla@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It was a good episode, but there are a few things I didn't like:

  • Blowing up a space refinery on a whim.
  • Too much romance/interpersonal stuff, still.
  • Pike needs to grow a spine and be more assertive.

I give it a 6/10; not bad, not great. I'm looking forward to the new episode.

[–] c4lm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Alright, one of the weaker episodes.

Not a fan of this Kirk, he reminds me more of Carrey than Shatner. Neither he, nor the Farragut needed to be in this episode.

[–] khaosworks@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Simon@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The whole season is very, very good. Really loved this episode and the characters development in it. Mayby the overall story of this episode wasn't the best, but who cares it is real classic trek 🖖

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought this one was...fine. I don't think it will go down in history as one of the more logical episodes, but it told the story it was trying to tell.

I do wish they'd given Spock an actual reason to approach Kirk and Uhura in that final scene. I get that they wanted to commit that meeting to film, but it was strange for him to just sort of...wander over.

[–] UESPA_Sputnik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Spock cleaned up Sam Kirk's mess once again. That's why he approached the table. (and I presume that's why that one snippet from last week was in the "previously on" segment)

[–] notverylearnedhand@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fantastic episode. Great to see Bruce Horak back.

I was a little thrown by the interactions between Sam and Kirk, and Una and Pelia. Their early scenes kind of felt pissy in a way you don't usually see in star trek.

[–] theothersparrow@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their early scenes kind of felt pissy in a way you don’t usually see in star trek.

I liked them, personally. I often think about what conflict would look like in a post-scarcity people... and sibling resentment, minor grudges (re: Una) feel like the sort of thing that stand the test of time.

We saw some of that pissy-ness in season one of Discovery, and the frictions between McCoy and others in TOS were far more extreme.

We shouldn’t expect 23rd Century crews to behave like mid 24th century crews in TNG. Human society has had another century of evolution and peace by then.

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I forget, but where is Uhura from?

[–] electrorocket@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

You don't activate the bussard collectors. They are always on. And most nebulas are the birthplace of stars, stop being so amazed. Literally unwatchable.