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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 11 months ago (4 children)

People that say this are so silly.

You're not being oppressed. It's just that saying merry Christmas to a crowd of diverse backgrounds is like wishing your mum a happy fathers day. She won't be mad or offended, she'll just think she should have breastfed you.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 30 points 11 months ago

No you don't understand, if I can't force everyone to be exactly like me that means I'm being oppressed!

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I say Happy Holidays to someone I know who obviously doesn't celebrate Christmas.

Also, it is weird for conservative Americans to be offended not greeting "Happy Christmas", when the migrant ancestors of modern Americans did not celebrate it as a holiday until more recently. Protestants thought celebrating Christmas is a Catholic abomination. Look how tables have turned and acting hypocritical as always...

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 11 months ago

Most "traditions", including holiday traditions, food culture, etc, are incredibly recent things. But people cling to it like they are the totality of their identify.

[–] black_rain@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Or telling someone “happy birthday “ when they’re in a group of people who aren’t having birthdays themselves. Only a three year old would get upset that they’re not included.

[–] Wrrzag@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's different in the US and other cultures, but as an atheist I've never seen the phrase as a very religious thing. I say "merry Christmas" and "happy holidays" indistinctly and I've never seen anyone offended by the use of either, independtly of their faith (or lack thereof).

I say "merry Christmas" on the actual Christmas day though.

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[–] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I have a neighbor just like this who INSISTS this is a Christian country and it's Christmas break not WiNtEr break. Satan's greetings from ya main witch! ✨🥰

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I always like the "Put Saturn back in Saturday" retort

I'm stealing this, I hope you know.

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[–] Kase@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

First time I've heard someone upset over calling it "winter break." People are wild

[–] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

People are wild, they forget that sometimes. And some of those wild people really do love being victims, even if it is self made drama lol

[–] autokludge@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Happy summer solstice! / ☀️🌊🎄🇦🇺

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

True story...

At work in my department they told us we can put decorations in our (at home!) office but to try and stay religiously neutral. Meanwhile in my friend's department (same employer) they got an email to wish employees a happy Easter back in April, happy Mawlid (celebration of Muhammad's birth) back in September and happy Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah in October...

I'm an atheist so I don't celebrate any of these things and to me holidays should just be spread equally to give people long weekends, but I can't help but laugh at the hypocrisy when it comes to Christmas compared to all other holidays through the year...

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's honestly refreshing to hear that your friends department encouraged them to celebrate multiple different religious holidays. There shouldn't be any problem celebrating religious holidays as long as they are all given equal considerations and the company doesnt play favorites.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To me anything religious should be treated as such, something private that has nothing to do with your workplace and only secular holidays should exist considering holidays are imposed by the government and there's supposed to be a separation of religion and State (in my country anyway), but I know my opinion on this subject is pretty extreme.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (7 children)

The holidays we have are so commercialized they hardly feel religious to me. Christmas and Easter are just times to spend with family, nothing to do with Jesus.

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[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 29 points 11 months ago

Happy Hondadays.

[–] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Christmas is a prison. – Foucault supposedly

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[–] Rosco@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I prefer to use the real term, not the christian knockoff. Happy Saturnalia everyone!

[–] ItDoBeHowItDoBe@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I think that is is important to note that there is very little real evidence for Christmas being taken from saturnalia. You can google christmas and saturnalia and come up with plenty of web articles, but looking at the actual history of it makes it pretty clear. Christmas takes place around the same time of saturnalia, sure, but that does not make it a Christian stab at replacing it. Saturnalia was traditionally observed between the 17th and 23rd of December, not the 25th. It was a 5-7 day festival, not a one day festival. Additionally, the church is said to have gotten the 25th by taking the day John's father was told he would have a son (shortly after the day of attonement), the new testiment statement that Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant when Jesus was conceived, and adding 40 weeks to the end for the average pregnancy. This would put Jesus born in late December. This general time line was documented as being calculated as early as CE 200s.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Enemies of Christmas! To battle! Choose your weapon:

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Obviously the Menorah.

It is made of metal unlike the card and the cup, and it does extra fire damage.

[–] webpack@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (5 children)

the coffee has splash damage and high DoT though

[–] Buttons@programming.dev 12 points 11 months ago

Y'all underestimating the low casting cost of saying "happy holidays".

[–] creamed_eels@toast.ooo 9 points 11 months ago

splash damage

I snorted 😂

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

True, it does AoE, but only once.

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[–] Bene7rddso@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

It can do heat damage too if you use McDonald's coffee

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[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 8 points 11 months ago

Can't I just wield an entire holiday tree? That's what my biofamily hate most.

[–] VicentAdultman@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

like I am gonna say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. The guy in the $4,000 suit. COME ON!

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

The man on the TV said people would get angry at me for saying merry Christmas - the guy in the $6,000 suit - COME ON

[–] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 11 months ago

I work with people in three different time zones. There is always someone having a flower festival, religious day or national holiday. Nobody gets offended for forgetting a holiday or if they did they don't last long.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Blasphemy, we celebrate Hondadays in this houshold!!!!

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not. Those commercials should die and be erased from history. Let them fall into the inky black chasm of oblivion.

(I really hate those commercials.)

Merry Chrysler! :D

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At the very least make it a Lexus December to Remember Sales Event!

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

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[–] CodyCannoli@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Merry Crisis!

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago
[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] exothermic@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Yo! saturnalia!

[–] lemmiter@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Happy Christmas and Merry New Year and Merry Hanukkah !!

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[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

Season gettings 🤮

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe that's actually why they support fascism-lite?

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

They only support fascism-lite because it's the next step on the way to pure-fascism.

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Merry Christmas!

[–] thatguydude@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

This has been going on for at least 15 years and it has got to stop

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