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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 126 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

The US has been drunk on the delusion of how noble and benevolent we consider ourselves since World War II.

We like to conveniently forget that at the time, many Americans looked up to the Nazis and were embracing eugenics. We were legally sterilizing subjective "undesirables," often without their knowledge, and we had no plans to do shit until the Axis, already steeped in conflict, decided to attack us directly from half a world away, committing one of the greatest self-inflicted tactical blunders in history thankfully.

America is all about subjugation, exploitation, and genocide. It just got a propaganda team to soften the way in which it talks about it since the mid 20th century.

At the end of the day, that's the magic of America: bullshitting. Lying. To ourselves and others. From "all men* are created equal" (Only applies to wealthy Caucasian land owners) to "manifest destiny" (genocide the people that already live here because its our destiny) to "separate but equal"(even apex American bullshitters couldn't say this one with a straight face) to "turning the bull loose"(get back to work slaves, this isn't a society) to "don't ask, don't tell" (we refuse to accept you as a human being, but hey come die gruesomely so our greedy fucks can access foreign oil markets). Our bullshit machine runs so deep, we are a ~~nation~~ capital exploitation farm that practically doubles as a religion.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26322647/#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20members,upheld%20such%20laws%20in%201927.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

People also forget that the people who came to the New World to escape religious persecution were being persecuted because their beliefs were so radical that no one wanted to deal with their bullshit anymore.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

Yep!

And we're still the sexuality phobic weirdos of the developed world, which stems out of our puritanical backwards forerunners.

Glorification of gruesome, bloody hyperviolence all day baby, we'll show it on a loop on the news for the kiddos! Don't forget to like and subscribe!

One flaccid dick or vagina in public, on the other hand, and everyone loses their minds!

This is an us thing. We are the prudes of the developed western world. “Omg a boobie AAAAHHHH my child is scarred for life!“

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If there's one thing I know about the US, it's that everyone is afraid of boobies.

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[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Wait, I thought the Nazis were the ones looking up at the Americans and based on them

[–] wololo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It goes both ways. Nazis were inspired by the US specifically the Jim Crow era, And US were looking up to Nazis until Japan nuked pearl harbor.

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Japan nuked pearl harbor" 💀💀💀

[–] wololo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

not nuked I meant bombed lmao

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Imagine if Japan legit did a reverse Uno card on the US lmao

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

many Americans looked up to the Nazis

And the Nazis were looking up to Americans! House on fire and all that...

[–] p_cells@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

To be fair, every nation feels good about themselves. Be proud of the good things, neglect the bad things. Who would want to be the bad guy? This is how human mind works.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except that's not the case at all. Lots of people in lots of nations will gladly tell you their country is shit.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

Including the us. Correct

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[–] franklin@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Stolen from another post felt relevant

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let’s be honest here. That’s a good episode, and I’m not judging you. But Sisko KOing Q is easily the best moment in the show.

”I’m not PICARD.”

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The Boston massacre was basically an anti-police riot that turned into a police shooting. The police were acquitted of the murder, which lead to more protests and an eventual revolution. Anytime someone says "real Americans support the police," I point back to that.

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[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (5 children)

points to Great Britain

I learned it from you

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago
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[–] stress_headache@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

This tweet is banned in Texas and Florida.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Just because America hasn't lived up to its values doesn't mean that the values are wrong

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Dude. Our constitution said black people were 3/5ths of a human.

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (52 children)

Exactly, thanks for supporting my point.

Does it still? Or did we change the Constitution to better reflect our values?

[–] CaptionAdam@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean the constitution is the backbone of the system and it used to be updated, but now people treat it as this perfect monolithic unchanging thing. If any modern politician tryd to add amendments it would not go well(also Canadian here)

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I agree with that. Thomas Jefferson had the right idea that the Constitution should be rewritten every generation to better reflect the people.

Maybe not that often, but certainly more than it is

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[–] Mamertine@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It was only enslaved people that were counted at 3/5ths. Free blacks were counted as a whole person.

From Wikipedia:

Although the three-fifths clause was not formally repealed, it was effectively removed from the Constitution. In the words of the Supreme Court in Elk v. Wilkins, Section 2 "abrogated so much of the corresponding clause of the original Constitution as counted only three-fifths of such persons [slaves]."

So it's technically still in there, but moot with slavery being banned.

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[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Our values are changing. The speaker of the House says that the separation of church and state does not exist. Second in line to the presidency.

Our history is being rewritten. Just look at the reinterpretation of the 2nd amendment after Reagan.

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[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (6 children)

And somehow America's the "upholder of moral values" and the world's police

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As an illiterate American, I could not read that meme and it's only by chance through random mashing of the keys that I was able to craft this response.

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

And the textbooks have been marginally sanitized even then.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

If Americans told the truth*

They can read it was about taxes but they won’t get to read about the colonies being pissed about fair treatment to the Natives for their help in the 7 years war (fair is relative: read it as respecting their borders and claims to America)

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh, so I'm the only one who gets in trouble when I start referencing Malcom X?

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[–] pascal@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So, in order, taxes evasion, war, secession, wars, racism, wars, poor labour laws, wars and racism again?

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[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Saddest thing among Americans is that they've been brainwashed into thinking they were the good guys in the revolution.

The revolution occurred because Britain took on a massive amount of debt to save Americans from the French and Natives. Britain wanted Americans to pay them back, but Americans just said 'no' and that's how we began fighting for our independence.

Our ancestors are shitbags. Plain and simple. "Opportunity" and "laissez-faire" are so important to American culture because they revolve around the idea "if you can get away with it, do it."

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[–] dx1@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Joshua Fit For Battle - Contents Of An American History Class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP862vW9WJE

Relentless imperialistic fucks

Eye glassed with drugs of power and conquest

Greed kills

Establish a history relationship

And turn around and stab them in the back

Guns and disease destroyed a whole culture

Victims on their backs, rotting

Seeping, suffering

Suffering, suffering

Suffering

This is our fucking history

This is our fucking history

History repeats itself and always will

[–] helixdaunting@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Thank you for transcribing the lyrics, because I couldn't understand them in the first 30 seconds and I wasn't willing to continue listening after that.

The message is good, the instrumentalists are proficient, but the vocals are painful. It was less "Rage Against The Machine" and more "Tantrum Against The Melody".

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