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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 120 points 2 years ago (10 children)

This it the bottom so far you mean.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Next bottom is whether the infants are conspirators or not.

[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 84 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Even better, infant body armor

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How did you get hold of Hamas training materiel?

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[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 86 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Judging from the comments, we can go lower.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

"Truly this is the bottom"

Conservatives everywhere brandishing shovels: "Challenge accepted"

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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (52 children)

It's like everyone's opinion is "my tribe is always right and deserves all the sympathy, the other tribe is always wrong and deserves all the suffering". No one cares about solutions or examining why a conflict has persisted for 80 years. Humans are so predictable.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's not even "my tribe".

Hardly anyone posting here is Israeli or Palestinian. It's just distracting nonsense to divide us. Pick a side plebs. Look, those people have picked the other side. Hate them!

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[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Demanding an evacuation of a hospital full of patients, under the threat of bombardment, only for those patients to die of complications for not being treated, this is just a more silent mass murder.

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[–] an_onanist@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And if it turns out that the accusation Hamas was using the basement as a command post is true, is that the new bottom?

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 134 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Using the hospital for anything other than helping people is a bottom. They are both trash entities.

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[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Still not a good reason to kill babies...

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[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

To people saying it's justified because Hamas are hiding there, if Hamas wants to kill as many Israelis as possible they could hide in a Israeli hospital and the IDF, being consistent, would bomb it just the same since it now became a military target. Right?

Yeah, you know they wouldn't, not the same way at least. Somehow Palestinians are an acceptable collateral while Israeli, specially Jews, would never be. That's how you know this isn't about Hamas.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Very good point! I will steal it and pretend I'm as smart as you

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (41 children)

That's because apparently someone decided, without discussion, that setting military headquarters in a hospital - where babies are born - is absolutely fine and moral move.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago (11 children)

He said, believing the IOF, who has killed Palestinians with absolute impunity, and lying through the teeth about it

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[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Killing a building full of women and children to go after a group of people who may or may not be in said building after they killed women and children...

Two unscrupulous groups are willing to murder innocent civilians. Sounds like two groups of terrorists.

Fuck Hammas, fuck the IDF. I'm absolutely fine with them killing each other. I'm not okay with the fact that they're both using innocent civilians as pawns.

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[–] neeshie@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (21 children)

Has there even been any evidence of that?

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[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Does no one remember the 1 million innocent Iraqis we killed based on a lie?

I would argue that is the most recent rock bottom we have come to since world war II.

We bombed people in their homes relentlessly. They were not going after military targets, it was an indiscriminate slaughter of mostly innocent people. Hundreds of thousands of children.

We have committed genocide purely for profit and power, very recently. Remember that when our government tries to defend Israel's actions. They are following our playbook.

There have been leaked conversations from Israeli officials stating that the war between them and Hamas helps them maintain power over Israeli citizens. They are creating more terrorists on purpose to leverage control over their people. What else happens when your family gets eradicated in a bombing? You go after those that are responsible, and joining Hamas is the easiest route to exact your revenge on those who killed your family.

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[–] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Do people think Hamas wouldn't hide in a hospital? Theyve proved many times civilians aren't a concern

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 80 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Do people think that there can't be two bad guys in a story? This isn't a good vs evil fight.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 years ago

"Good guys" are a myth invented by Hollywood to sell action figures

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Do people think that there can’t be two bad guys in a story?

You're not going to like the answer...

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[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (15 children)

So, that justifies killing civilians?

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (8 children)

no, that justifies invading a hospital

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[–] 11181514@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think Hamas is hiding inside your house. What, do people think Hamas wouldn't hide inside your house?

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Hamas and Hezbollah are not the public of Palestine. So it raises the question if anybody cares. Netanyahu has made it clear to the rest of us he does not.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Is that really what we're debating? We all know it isn't.

What's important is can they get away with it before losing the support of those propping them up.

When the US and their buddies bombed the fuck out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and we all gathered around to watch the display of "shock and awe" did we bother to find out what they were bombing? Or did we just just go "take that, Taliban and Al-Qaida"?

Anything Israel are doing has been done before by their allies. They know it's shady as fuck, but also know they got away with it too.

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[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

oh, i'm sure it can go lower. just give it time

[–] anus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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