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[–] the_q@lemmy.world 142 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Stop giving him money. That's the key to every problem.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Now we need to get NASA and the DOD to stop giving him money too.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemdro.id 4 points 10 months ago

Operation Paperclip is calling from inside the house.

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

are there any other viable domestic rocket companies that launch as often as SpaceX does?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is absolutely nothing these over-hyped "space" companies can do that the US couldn't do far better and far cheaper through NASA itself - you know, just like they did when they sent astronauts to the moon?.

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago (6 children)

that's a fair point but it was also politically necessary to spend half a billion or more per launch to "show the ruskies who the real superpower was" - and a lot of the tech was still being developed. now, 50 years on, the tech is much more established, materials science has matured, and it's cheaper for a non-government organization to perform the launches.

getting nasa involved is just going to involve gratuitous spending and pork barrel politics - look towards the SLS program. vastly over budget with not much to show for it. rounding down, you could buy every single launch SpaceX has made this year and still have a few billion $$$ in spare change left over for the cost of SLS... and it's flown, what? once?

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

NASA’s first launch of the heavy lift Artemis, vs Space X’s Starship’s disaster of a “successful test” are different paths (and seems largely because the cut costs on protecting the lunch pad with water).

Falcon and all the previous space x rockets seem much less influenced by Musk than the Starship. Same as the Tesla Truck, I feel the Starship project is more vanity than engineering, and might not succeed the way Falcon etc. did.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Launching that car into space though was all Musk. Fucking moron.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

Ah yeah, I’d forgotten about that one.

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[–] Luft@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] SJSmith@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How about rocket companies that can get crew to the ISS and back?

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[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

How about NASA makes their own damn rockets like they used to.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But he already had all the money the moment he was born

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He had peanuts compared to what he has now

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

He had enough at birth to fail upwards comfortably. Doesn't matter that he had less at birth.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Exactly. Start every kid with unlimited physical and mental health care, never wanting for any basic need, traveling the world on cool first-class vacations, attending fancy private schools. See if they don't all turn into "self starters."

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Exactly. In just a few thousand years, he'll run out of money as long as he keeps buying yachts every day.

But no, seriously, if we want him to be less relevant it's pretty simple. Stop going to Twitter (fuck x, i won't call it that ever) don't buy tesla, and lobby against SpaceX. At least, until Elon has no control (edit: and financial benefit) over any of those.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Stop using his shitty services and supporting him. This is not a hard thing to grasp.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 6 points 10 months ago

I mean, if Lemmy has trouble figuring that out, what hope is there for the normies?

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Good luck with that. People always say they're going to leave twitter/X. But they come back. Like they're addicted to it.

[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

I don't know what purpose "Like" serves in the last sentence. They're clearly addicted to it. And not some watered down version of addiction. Some are just as addicted to that form of social media as drug addicts are to opiates or amphetamines. It's become a chemical addiction but their withdrawal symptoms are only mentally observable.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 62 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What can anyone do about it?

Stop buying from companies he owns.

Stop using services he owns.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is why I haven't flown with SpaceX

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Same. Any minute now I'd be taking my daily jaunt around space, but alas, the major players in the space are Bezos and Musk, so because of my principled stance (and nothing else!) I am going to shit post on the fediverse instead and then maybe play some video games.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 51 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Why does the worker class, the larger of the two classes, not simply eat the ruling class?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

the larger of the two classes, not simply eat the ruling class?

I wouldn't feed these parasites to dogs - never mind the working class.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Because we’re too busy working and the tools we would use to organize are being bought and tanked by the ruling class.

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[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 30 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Just create an account on Mastodon and slowly move over.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Don’t buy a teesla

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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ignore him. The more people forget about him, the more worthless he becomes, in any sense of the word.

Don't type his name. Don't seek him out. Don't write fucking articles about him. Delete him.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If history has taught us anything, it’s to NOT ignore the raging antisemite with a curiously large (and growing) support base…

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There's a difference between keeping a watchful eye on someone, and actively platforming them.

Writing articles, striking up casual conversations, and actively bringing attention to him are all things that bolster his existence.

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[–] DeadNinja@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Elon Musk is an antisemite. What can anyone do about it?

Make him take off his pants and sit on a lighted Menorah.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is almost Hanukkah season...

[–] S_204@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Don't even have to wait, candles are lit on Fridays. You don't need 9 candles for this.

[–] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago
[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean... legally? No, not really.

Extra-legally? He has a security team. They could easily arrange an "accident".

Now, sure, extra-judicial executions are generally bad, but I'm willing to make exceptions for billionaires and nazis. And wouldn't you know, this guy is both.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Someone would have to pay them better than Musk does. I'm guessing he doesn't skimp on security guard paychecks.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Elect him as the president?

[–] Bdtrngl@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Really loving that 14th amendment right now.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nationalize his companies and ensure he has a glowy career future of mining lithium for the batteries (until he dies in agony).

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 months ago

I mean... legally? No, not really.

Extra-legally? He has a security team. They could easily arrange an "accident".

Now, sure, extra-judicial executions are generally bad, but I'm willing to make exceptions for billionaires and nazis. And wouldn't you know, this guy is both.

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