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[–] DragonTypeWyvern 387 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Absolutely shocked that the South African oligarch/gamer is a white supremacist.

[–] Animoscity@lemmy.world 201 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’s not a gamer just wants the incel cred

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 109 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His desperation to impress a bunch of dweebs on the internet is as bizarre as it is pathetic.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I genuinely wouldn't swap spots with Musk if it meant I had to adopt his character and reputation. Fuuuuck that I'm happy where I am.

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[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 63 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I feel like this is an example of the dangers of surrounding yourself with a monoculture. Maybe Elon was always exactly this way, but he was seemingly previously tempered by the notably distinct moderation policies at Twitter. Once he owned it and stripped that moderation, there's nothing holding the pendulum anymore and he swings pretty far the other direction.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe he was always this way and not public about it, but things changed for the worse right around when his trans daughter came out.

Between that and covid I think he went down a rabbit hole further entrenching things and turned into a MAGA type as that rabbit hole does to those that go down it.

And now he won't even listen when his brother and the chair of the board of Tesla tells him he's hurting the brand.

Edit: just to clarify, "the woke mind virus" is what thinks took his daughter away, and now he is hellbent on destroying it, not realizing it's him who's been infected by hate and bigotry

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Between that and covid I think he went down a rabbit hole

Nahh... he was always this way. If your daughter coming out as trans "turns" you into a right-winger, it just means you were always a right-winger.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So once he wouldn't get in trouble for openly being a bigot, he openly became a bigot?

He owes his entire life to apartheid and slavery in all senses that matter. And even when he was everyone's hero and a real life Tony Stark, he threw a temper tantrum when divers chose to rescue children and not stroke his ego. To the point he accused one of the divers of pedophilia, ran an investigation, and used a team of lawyers to protect himself from any consequences.

Musk has always been a dipshit

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[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And why democracy is important as a form of error correction. People can have their opinions, and inevitably we all get things wrong (magnitude of things we get wrong varies a lot). But when someone has a large concentration of power we all have to deal with the fallout from their malfunction. Companies the size and import of Twitter, Facebook, Reddit should be democratically controlled, some kind of cooperative.

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[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 223 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Imagine being literally the richest person in the world. You can afford anything, you can go anywhere, you can do anything. But you spend most of your free time begging for attention from absolute strangers. What a pathetic little bitch.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Right? If I had even a fraction of a percent of his wealth, I'd disappear into a life of anonymous bliss, never to be heard from again.

[–] vettnerk@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago

MySpace Tom comes to mind. Bless that guy.

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[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 142 points 1 year ago (36 children)

I’ve always thought being “proud” of your race, any race, is a weird concept.

Like, you didn’t do anything to be white, or black, or asian. Why would you take pride in something you had no agency in?

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

It's a participation prize. Congratulations, you were born.

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[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 69 points 1 year ago (54 children)

So, Elon dislikes that white people can't be proud of being white.

Why would a person of any race be proud of their race? Shouldn't people be proud of their own accomplishments, and those of the people they've helped?

I never really understood the rationale here. I support Pride Month for example, but I think the language is kind of wrong.

Shouldn't people be proud, despite traits which have historically been denigrated?

This is a serious question BTW.

[–] dasgoat@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When your ancestors have been targetted, racialized, abused and enslaved for centuries and the effects of that are still felt to this day, and when you are still being racialized and abused because of the colour of your skin and your heritage, you feel like you have nothing to be proud of. The world is telling you you don't matter, that 'your kind' deserves it.

THAT'S why POC are so adament about being proud. Because when a racist tells them they're worth nothing, and when the world tells them they're nothing, they need to rely on themselves and their community.

Being proud is resistance. Against all the shit that has been done to POC, and the shit that is still being done today.

White pride is not resistance, other than resistance to the idea of black pride taking over from a centuries old status quo where white people were the only ones who 'mattered'. You're not resisting anything with 'white pride'. You're taking away voices and dignity of POC.

It's no wonder the only people who unironically say 'white pride' are fucking nazis. That should inform anyone about the whole concept of it. Don't weaponize your whiteness.

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[–] kema@lemmings.world 27 points 1 year ago (8 children)

In my mind, LGBTQ Pride is generally called that because Shame was, at least in contemporary history, a huge driver in suppressing LGBTQ existence and freedoms. If it was called LGBTQ No-More-Shame, it would remain antithetical but might not be as catchy. I'm sure other groups will employ the same argument, but it is difficult to overstate how powerful shame and social stigma specifically suppressed LGBTQ expression, and still attempts to in some ways.

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[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Anyone still on Twitter at this point for whatever their reasons, have to recognize what group they are in.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (7 children)

People were unironically comparing this man to Tony Starks lol. 🏃🏾‍♂️

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago

Phony Stark

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[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

For context, here's the full tweet Elon is endorsing as all these articles are omiting it for some reason

Jewish communties have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.

I’m deeply disinterested in giving the tiniest shit now about western Jewish populations coming to the disturbing realization that those hordes of minorities that support flooding their country don’t exactly like them too much.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Elon is slowly but surely tearing down everything he has created.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 119 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon is slowly but surely tearing down everything he has ~~created~~

Bought.

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[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

What has he created? He bought himself into Twitter and Tesla... and the work is essentially done entirely by other people. i.e his employees

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep. And his pet projects that he personally drives always crash and burn. He's the one that pushed the autopilot feature hard despite his engineers publicly objecting.

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The guy that still has no idea why his kids hate him, at it again.

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why were they even adversing on Ten?

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tell me you're South African without you know.

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I find an odd sort of satisfying humour that we know exactly where IBM draws the line, and it's right there.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

I'm honestly not going to do business with anyone who still maintains a presence on that platform much less advertise on it. Cheers to IBM for stepping up.

[–] kalistia@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago

Is there a list somewhere of the companies advertizing on this thing? Could be useful to ask them what they think about that!

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Twitter/X is going to end up selling boner pills and conspiracy theories. Way to burn through 44 billion dollars, Elmo.

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[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A white south african guy is racist? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The company that sold automation to Hitler: "This guy is a step too far"

[–] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The art of debate and discussion today is watered down to, "...but but that other thing is evil too!"

Can't talk about Uyghurs genocide because European settlers killed natives 500 years ago. IBM and Musk can both be bad. Same as time changes things and people.

Stop distracting from Musk's wrongdoings. What happened 90 years ago was 90 years ago. We can't change that. What we can do is influence change today. Thanks to IBM for not allowing their money to fuel Musk's machines.

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[–] Littleborat@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So was this guy semi normal in the head at some point?

I am really wondering if he has been deteriorating over the last years.

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So will I still get downvoted into oblivion for calling him the white supremacist that he has always been?

Probably.

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[–] ClemInFrench@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's surely only a matter of time before he becomes a climate change denier, right? He's gone all in every other right wing weirdo ideology.

[–] acpx@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

How unsettling would it be if the CEO of SpaceX became a flat earther?

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At this point, if anybody asks, I never had a Twitter account. It's way too embarrassing to admit otherwise.

No normal public figure/organization would ever to be associated with this disgusting behavior, but this is the inevitable results engagement centric personalized algorithm, as conflicts create the highest amount of user engagement for the platform.

Most public organizations/figures should really think about running federated social media accounts on their own server, because having control over the server is the only way to 100% ensure your freedom of association online.

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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

And this is why all news of Elon isn't necessarily good news nor free advertising for him. We don't have to trip over ourselves when he breathes, but when he's a piece of shit? Spread it as much as possible.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

They just wait until they have everyone kissing their asses and fuck you money, then they let you see who they really are.

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