This is what made me switch to Linux full-time. I'm not surprised this is still a thing 10+ years later
this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2023
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Oh that's why my Linux instance suddenly stopped working. I will have to look into this
Windows, not even once
I wish it could be so, I need both for work. I have always required a laptop with two separate hdd slots, but Windows tends to mess up everything anyway, and then Linux get the blame for being unstable. I also have a fun thing where the RTC becomes out of sync because win and Linux handle time differently. This can mess up 2FA among other things, so that's great😅
I think Windows will have to go on a VM instead because it is so unstable.
You can set Windows to use UTC for the hardware clock (or have Linux use local time shudder). Just need to set a registry key:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation]
"RealTimeIsUniversal"=dword:00000001
Yup! Windows did an update and hosed your boot record. I don't even use the same partition for the Windows and Linux boot sectors and Windows still breaks it occasionally. My solution was to just not log into Windows anymore.
Same here. I tried the dual boot life for a while but eventually I gave up. On Windows, of course.
I will eventually need to log back into Windows next time I want to design something in Fusion 360, since there aren't any stable solutions for Linux, but that's literally the only thing I need Windows for.
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I was dual booting because of rocket League.
The well epic did an epic and so I stopped. My computer is set to boot to the kubuntu drive. I have to make it boot to windows if I need that drive.
I miss drinking and tanking my MMR with buddies.. but windows. :/ lol
Good to know I'm saving myself a pain in the ass
You can play Rocket League on Linux with proton.
That game is no longer worth the hassle.
I've almost filled a dual boot SSD and I've got an NVME drive sitting there waiting to be installed and I haven't done it yet because I wanted to move just the Linux partitions onto the NVME and leave the windows on the SATA SSD and its just complicated enough and fraught with just enough danger that it's not fun.
For the life of me I've no idea why, I literally can't remember the last time I booted into windows, certainly not since the last shenanigans with fusion 360.
I have in fact never had or seen this problem, and I'm quite bewildered by so many people having it. Do your normal windows updates do it? Or transition between major Windows versions? Or is it just a Win 11 problem?
I've pretty much always used a dual boot Win/Linux laptop, since around Vista, and I'm on 10 now (but only use it for a few games; all important things in Linux).
I'm not sure how it is now, but when I was still dual booting I had the same problem until I got a separate drive for Linux instead of just using different partitions of the same drive.
Funny enough, I think the only time I've run into bootloader problems on a single drive, it ended up being Linux that broke my Windows boot. Typically Windows leaves my EFI partition well enough alone during updates.
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I'm rather inexperienced with Linux, so between Windows and I, my computer's bootloader is always messed up. I really need to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Windows update went way further than deleting Grub on my laptop. It completely wiped my Linux partition, and I'm not alone in having Microsoft blow up my system:
I've never seen it with EFI. Used to happen with the old MBR disk format & BIOS, but with GPT disks and UEFI it leaves the ESP alone and the EFI picks the bootloader to use from that.
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This is the truest meme I've ever seen.
This just happened to me on my laptop like a week ago. I can still Systemd boot into Pop!_Os so I haven't looked into fixing it yet.
You just need to boot from a live USB, chroot into the OS, and rebuild the boot sector. Pop has a great document on how to do it. It takes maybe 5 minutes.
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I'm a bit offended by Linux beeing in a wheelchair, implying it can't run, even if one wheel wasn't stolen 😤
Instead, it should be 8 legged and run the web 😉
I agree. I won't lie: it's a stolen meme too. I'm the worst!
Image Transcription: Meme
[An image of King Charles III stealing a wheel from a wheelchair. A person on the wheelchair is angry. They are labeled as such:]
King Charles: Windows Update
Wheel being stolen: UEFI Boot partition
Person on wheelchair: Linux
I am a human volunteer who transcribes posts to improve accessibility on programming.dev and you could be one too! !transcribing@programming.dev
Is that Prince Andrew stealing the wheel?
That's His Majesty King Charles III, tyvm.
About time!
To abolish that silly nonsense, sure
They can just be simple billionaires with too much power over the government instead of the head of state of 15 countries.
No, Charlie is being cheeky again
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perfect
I don't even use Linux but this meme is hilarious
High time to get rid of Windows, then.
I had to set up Grub2Win in order for these shenanigans to stop. Never had problems with dual booting again afterwards
For others who were interested in this like I was.
Be aware that systems with secure boot enabled are not supported and the author has stated will likely never be supported due to the hassle of getting it signed by a trusted authority.
not a huge issue but, still an annoyance
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Debian is also able to do this after an update, as it disables the os-prober by default. You have to manually re-enable it (prevent it from being disabled).
Yeah but in that case it isn't nuking the boot files required to boot Windows, it's just clearing the boot entry list and reenabling os-prober and updating grub is enough to fix it. It's like a 1 minute process tops.
Windows is capable of permanently nuking your Linux boot partition, overwriting it entirely and you'd have to boot into a live iso and take several more steps to fix it unless you keep a backup of your boot partition.
That's why you should only have a Linux partition. Most things Windows cam be done with WINE, Proton, or, in absolute necessity, a VM.
I still have Windows dual booted because I just can't figure these things out. Literally just now spent an hour trying to get Topaz Gigapixel working in Bottles and it just crashes, freezes, or sometimes doesn't launch. Installed vcredist dependencies only to have vague messages of "Failed to Install" Even tried ditching Bottles and just going through Steam and it failed there too. It's better than it was 10 years ago, but I'll have to keep a dual boot.
These days with how good KVM is, running Windows in a VM is a pretty good option.
Not that I'm against dual booting, but depending on how many programmes you're actually needing to boot into Windows for it can be a more convenient option.
On the other point, if you're struggling to get things working in Wine/Bottles/etc. when the internet tells you they should work, you could try looking into CrossOver by Codeweavers. It's a paid-for product from the company that does most of the development on Wine and Proton. Not everything can and will work in Wine/etc., but CrossOver has a free trial so it can't hurt to give it a go.
I'd be open to a VM, but in the case of Gigapixel it requires access to the GPU, which would disconnect it from the primary, my primary display. Thanks for the heads up on crossover, I'll look into it
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I have exactly one program i need and that just won't run in Linux. It's the proprietary scan software that came with my scanner. It lives on a Windows VM and only gets fired up once a week.
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This is why I stopped dual-booting
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