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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago (13 children)

As it turns out, conservatism was the real plague all along.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

🌎🧑‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Conservatism is a pre-existing condition/risk factor to your (and those around you) health

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

More like mental illness

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

A few thousand years and counting.

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[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It really is rather astonishing what one idiot in the right place at the right time can accomplish. For example, if you had asked me to describe a typical anti-vaxxer anytime before 2020 I would have described someone a lot like a hippie. Someone who smokes a lot of weed, makes their own clothes, shows up at all the mid-week protests against factory farming, that sort of thing. If you asked me that same question now you'd get a very different answer and it really can be summed pretty succinctly in the acronym MAGA.

I'm sure the first type is still out there but the second type is much more interesting in the academic sense of the word. These are people who were openly mocking anti-vaxxers less than 5 years ago. These are the people who didn't think twice about mandatory vaccination days in school or the military. This sort of person flipped their whole attitude towards the medical community almost exclusively because one loud idiot who obviously doesn't have a fucking clue how any of it works told them that he knew better. That's amazing.

[–] Chemical@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Can’t tell you how many times in my clinic I heard “I can’t stand that Fauci”. Every time a look of disgust would envelop my face and I would ask ”why?!” in disbelief. Most of the time they couldn’t tell my why other times because he “lied”. It was clear they didn’t understand basic science and we’re being told what to believe. These were your run of the mill MAGAs that constitute the majority and the norm where I’m from.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What's wild has been watching previous hippies that were antivaxxers suddenly adopt racist and hateful attitudes because it aligned with their newfound perceived in-group.

Like - how do you go from proudly having protested for civil rights to using the N word all because of the strength of your convictions about the healing power of quartz?

Our brains are weird as shit and I really can't wait for AI superintelligence because it's become clear as fucking day that such a thing as superintelligence sure as hell isn't going to be happening in humans.

[–] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Our 13 month old is fully vaccinated. We do this crazy thing where we trust our doctor. He's doing great and we're doing our part...it is so frustrating how stupid Republicans are

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The craziest part to me is the docs who believe the conspiracies. You spent all that time studying medicine and don’t believe it?

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Mental illness can have its pull.

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[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We had one of our cats in the vet a while back and she noted that he needed his rabies vaccine, and we could tell she was a little nervous about how we would respond. We said, "Do it!", but apparently she's had a few people respond negatively...

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Declining your pet's rabies vaccine?

As in, your pet could contract rabies, bite or scratch you, and then you don't get the shot in time due to either denial, or you're too ignorant to see the symptoms of rabies in your pet, or they are displaying the more subtle symptoms and you don't catch it?

Even if you do catch it and treat yourself, now Fluffy has a fatal illness and has to die.

What an astoundedly stupid decision.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They are a proud tribe.

[–] tym@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Which came first? The political party or the childhood lead poisoning?

Let's not focus too much on labels.. the real issue is there's like 80 million dumb motherfuckers out there who plan on voting. You can't cure stupid and we're in fuckin trouble!

[–] s_i_m_s@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lead poisoning, it used to be popular for plates and cups cuz it made the food taste better (because the lead leached in and lead has a sweet taste), then later indoor plumbing (sometimes with lead pipes) became common like a decade prior to the founding of the Republican party in the 1850s. We didn't get leaded gas until the 1920s

Anyone considered getting rid of leaded avgas yet?

Or testing food for lead more stringently?

Like they had children suffering from lead toxicity recently from contaminated applesauce packages and it takes a fuckton of lead to cause toxicity.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are all of these kids homeschooled? We just put our daughter in online school and even they want her immunization records. I don't even get that, but fine, we'll send them. She's up to date on her vaccines.

[–] PinkPanther@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They just want to make sure there kids don't give them virus over the internet because the school beard heard that you can get virus on the internet.

You know how scary the internet can be... I once read an article written by someone with the flu, and then I got the flu!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This is a level of tech illiteratcy I'd have legitimately expected in the early 2000's

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[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Same with my son. I am guessing not all states or counties have such restrictions. Especially in remote areas.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about the right-wing media which fostered scientific ignorance because making money and supporting a fascist political party was more important to them than the good of the country? These MAGA dipshits didn't stop getting vaccinated until they were told to.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How about Christianity which advocated for blind faith and dismissed knowledge as worthless since the first century?

Where do you think the right wing got the idea that listening to authoritarian guidance and conforming to group beliefs trumps scientific knowledge and learning?

In general, it's alarming how often some form of 'spiritualism' whether Christian or some Western strain of Eastern branded BS goes hand in hand with people saying they don't believe in vaccines.

This isn't simply scientific illiteracy, it's spiritual literacy as a competing factor encouraging belief in magical thinking over observation and testing.

Which at this point has expanded out to weird crap like thinking the pyramids were built by aliens or that Jesus was secretly talking about tongue yoga to stimulate the pituitary gland to all sorts of the most bizarre shit I've ever heard.

People have thrown away any grip on reality and along with it suddenly become insufferable know-it-not-at-alls that just don't shut up about criticizing actual knowledge while promoting insanity.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, if they are that determined to go extinct - let them. Although I feel sorry for the kids that get mistreated this way by their parents.

[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well no one can do anything against a genocide that is self directed.

Like if everyone in Spain decided to commit suicide I wouldn't think it to be ok, but it's their choose and more space.for the Portuguese to expand to sooo. Well let them

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blame Andrew Wakefield. He was the one who convinced Jenny McCarthy. She's a useful idiot. And I do mean idiot. She wrote an article that's been scrubbed from the internet about how her child was an 'indigo,' meaning he would have superhuman powers. This was before his autism diagnosis, which apparently changed her mind, because that's when the article got scrubbed.

It also contained a sentence that said (paraphrased): "After my son was born, I quit smoking."

She's a fucking idiot.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought you were kidding, but nope. The smoking sentence isn't mentioned in there, but everything else is. Wow.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Huh. I remember the smoking part, but maybe I'm misremembering.

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