Teens are more susceptible to marketing and peer pressure. It's not their fault or anything it's just their brains aren't finished cooking and these companies take advantage of that.
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Yeah, there's the whole green vs blue chat bubbles thing too. They'll leave people with Android phones out of the group chat, which isn't exactly great for your social life at school.
Their parents are to blame too. You shouldn't be giving a kid everything it wants. How the fuck would a kid find the money to buy such expensive trash anyway?
When my newborn daughter turns 12 or 13, she's getting a dumb phone. She needs to be able to call and text her family, that's it. Then she can go through the stages that I went through of dumb phone to slightly better dumb phone to low-tier smartphone to flagship as she gets to be 18. At that point then, she'll be old enough to buy it with her own job money
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When looking at worldwide market share Android leads with 80+ percent.
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Looking at the world I see 69% to 29% share in favour to android. There is no problem for android at all.
I feel like the headline is incomplete, should probably add in America
The subheading does specify that is in the US. And in the main text of the article, the very first line in fact, it mentions that Android has the largest market share worldwide.
Makes sense to include mentions that this is about the US in the Lemmy post. US is not the default
How much of that split is among the 3rd world and over 25s? Demographics matter, and paint a very different picture.
That's their point though
Guys, should an essential device be "cool"? It doesn't hurt, don't get me wrong... But is it a good reason to buy a device you need?
Buy this shit because it works, not because it's cool. Android lets you do more, so I own one. That's it. Fuck Google, I just want to install third party apps.
so youre not a teenager, eh?
These are teenagers. Buying anything is done under the consideration of how cool it is. Literally everything else is not important during consideration, what matters is having the thing that makes you socially accepted.
If old school cell phones with monochrome pixel displays and zero functionalities beyond telephone and sms were trending, instead of just being a niche for people fed up with social media, kids would buy that in a heartbeat.
You probably forgot how overwhelmingly important social status and belonging to a group is at that age.
Classmate once rocked up with that new thing called „iPhone“ and was the coolest kid on the block. Then I took out my Siemens M35 and showed them my swappable front covers, and said that each week I would put a different one on.
Suddenly this ancient brick was cooler than an iPhone.
Kids and teens are very easily convinced that something is cool
Well my fridge is an essential device and it's cool.
But probably not cool with teenagers though...
Speak for yourself. My freezer is chock full of teenagers.
americans just love the golden cage, also apple puts more into ads than lobbyists during a presidential election campain
Yeah they did a very clever thing for the past decade or so, by slapping their illuminated logo onto their laptops, then aggressively contracting TV studios to have the actors use Macs
They both suck. I wish my phone was like a PC and I could install whatever OS I wanted.
Now we live in a day where if you deviate from the manufactures installed OS you get no hardware or warranty support.
Imagine Dell refusing warranty if you installed Linux on a server.
I lean slightly to Android, but an not happy with Google's bullshit tricks with their phones, not the bloat and bullshit on a Samsung phone.
I'll be looking for an alternative soon... But there isn't much it there if you want an affordable near flagship.
Imagine Dell refusing warranty if you installed Linux on a server.
If you install Linux on an OEM PC, you will be denied service until you put Windows back on. Mentioning a server isn't a fair comparison.
I have RMAd dozens of dell laptops with linux
the trick is to buy the smallest disk variant possible, put the original one into a drawer, then just do backups and you'll be good
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I know Microsoft isn't a very good alternative as a company, but I do wish Windows Phone had taken off better.
At least it would have been some competition to the Duopoly we now have.
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Apple may have a monopoly on teens in the US, but the fact that most android phones are cheaper, more powerful, more customisable and look better, will keep Google in the top spot with android.
Also, and I realise this is anecdotal, but where I'm from in the UK, having an iPhone stands you out as a bit of a dullard. Wasted money and all that.
Why are iPhones so popular in the US compared to Europe? Is it a peer pressure kind of thing? Or simply status? The difference seems to be pretty substantial and I don't think it can be explained by user experience alone.
iPhones have a 58% (US) vs 26% (EU) market share.
I think it has to do with the messagin app. For some reason in the us it's still common to use plain sms messages, which on an iPhone get translated to the blue bubble, but when sent to an android become the infamous green bubble.
This is however not the case in the EU bc sms messages were still expensive enoughfuring that time that when whatsapp released, everyone did the switch so as to not to pay the sms fees, and now, even if sms are basically free, everyone uses whatsapp as the default messaging app.
And as we know on whatsapp there's no differentiation of anything regarding the device you are sending messages to, so no constant reminder of "this guy had an android".
Just my 2 cents on why this could be.
off topic, by any chance are you using Jerboa? ses like your comments is missing some spaces and I suspect it might be a bug with the app
It is a bug with Jerboa, it don't play nice with autocomplete / autocorrect underlines.
Yes! Wow it has to do with the app? I was going crazy, yes when I delete a word it shifts back and joind with the last word, it drives me nuts, are they planning on fixing it? Or do you recommend me another app?
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While other commenters are correct about the marketing in some aspects. As a parent of teenagers I will say if they don't have an iPhone they will be mocked relentlessly. The whole bubble color thing is real. They think androids are for poor people even though androids have a much larger range of price. This isn't a "my kids" thing. This is a "everyone in school thinks" thing.
God help me when they get their next upgrade and suddenly my chargers start going missing because "someone stole" theirs...
They think androids are for poor people
So it boils down to classism among youths and in schools?
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Apple is headquartered in America and used a lot of marketing with celebrities, musicians, trendsetters etc.
Samsung is really popular in Asia. There's something to be said for homefield advantage.
What's the carrier situation like in the EU? Do they market the iPhone aggressively in Europe? I'd suspect both of those may have some influence on the difference, but I'm as interested as you in what's affecting the differences in adoption between both regions.
Heavy marketing in europe
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Iphone is the superior phone for people that really dont want to know how a operating system works and dont want to learn either. Always when i talk about something i do on my phone that Apple has locked its users out of doing my iPhone-friends go "That sounds complicated" when its mostly basic af. I would not even dare call myself a power-user, because i am not. Its just that iphone is perfect for the tech illiterate.
Hm, we should start saying iPhones are for boomers, that'll probably change the tide lmao
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If the US had a functioning FCC that wasn't toothless aka their own Margrethe Vestager, European Commissioner for Competition, and Digital Markets Act, iMessage wouldn't even be a special.
- Bullshit 2. World > USA
Whoever considers an iPhone as a status thing is generally broke anyway. I personally own both S23U and i14PM and I still use S23U because it helps me in my daily life much more than an iPhone. People claiming something about others based on a fucking phone preference aren't worth my time.
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When Jobs kicked the bucket, RMS rightfully said that this mf'n evil genius has figured out a way of making people run to their stores with their arms stretched forward, asking them to handcuff them.
They think if they text a person whos on android, their iphone will get AIDS or something.
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Until mommy and daddy aren't paying for their phones anymore.
I'm assuming that stat is for the US because here Apple's stuff is very much in the minority with every group.
Around 90% sounds like absolute bullshit numbers.
My son is jelly because he has a hand me down iPhone, and I showed him my wallpaper engine on android.
That’s not a problem at all.
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