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I hate the word 'Consumer' or I mockingly call it 'CONSOOMER'. Because that's to imply everyone in the world is just cattle, but with wallets. We're no longer customers. We're consumers now. And a consumer's purpose is to consume shit, whatever is put out there. Got money? Shut up and consume, it's what corporate interests and capitalism itself thrive on. Consume and consume.

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[–] Cotillion189@lemmy.world 144 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Influencer. Plain and simple. I hate when i hear it on tv, when someone calls themselve like that ugh.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I use it as a derogatory term. Content creator is for the people who create content that is imo valuable. Influencers I use for the type of person who makes content to sell as space.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Content is another one of those words. If you make youtube vidoes, the stuff you make isn’t just some generic random “content” goo. It’s videos, right?

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[–] aard@kyu.de 13 points 1 year ago

I find it quite useful as warning that you'll now hear about the opinion of a moron which you can safely ignore.

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[–] Tetra@kbin.social 114 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Refering to women as "females" is always a massive red flag for me, it really gets under my skin.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know, when did "woman" become so problematic?

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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 81 points 1 year ago (6 children)

“Customer” in a healthcare setting.

[–] CylonBunny@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well at least health care hasn’t started using the word consumer yet!

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[–] charlytune@mander.xyz 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When someone describes themselves as an 'entrepeneur', particularly when they say that in their dating profile, I immediately assume they're just a grade A wanker.

[–] SgtSilverLining@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I've always wondered what that means. Did they start an LLC and do nothing with it? Fall for a pyramid scheme? Write phishing emails?

Usually when someone owns a business, it's a point of pride and part of their sense of self. "I run a restaurant" or "I'm a patternmaker" or something. As an accountant myself, I find I use this gif way too much:

[–] discodoubloon@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah you’re pretty much dead on. If they were doing something even remotely interesting they would say that without being vague.

“I run an Amazon dropship reseller service for cheap pots and planters” is kinda dumb but you are running an actual business. the only way saying you’re an entrepreneur is cool is if you are selling something so sophisticated no one will have any clue what the fuck it is… and even then you’d elaborate a little.

The silence on the matter speaks volumes.

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[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Two words but... human resources.

We ran out of humans to burn, can you check the freezer if we have any left from last winter? Otherwise I have to drive to the farm and get some fresh ones.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 61 points 1 year ago (9 children)

"Try Hard."

It's the dumbest of all insults. You seriously are gonna talk shit about someone who is doing well at the game because they are actively trying to achieve victory? And that's the best you can come up with? Get the fuck outta here with that.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think it refers to effort level alone. It's about doing obnoxious, unfun things to get marginal (at best) advantages.

For example, the only game I really still play multiplayer is Madden. If I hold a dude to 4th and 15 and they go for it, I know damn well it's going to be a boring shitshow of a game until they rage quit. They're going to turn it over on downs because that's not a convertible play, I'm going to get an easy touchdown, they're going to be even more stupidly aggressive on the next possession because now they're behind, and it's going to be a blowout where I'm just waiting for them to quit because there's no way they're going to play it out for a whole game.

That's a try hard. Someone just winning and making intelligent gambles isn't.

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[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (6 children)

NPC when referring to other people. It does nothing but dehumanize them.

[–] MenacingPerson@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is the point of calling someone an NPC.

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[–] Baconheatedradiator@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Isn't the whole point to dehumanise them?

They're calling them a "none playable character" after all.

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[–] BromSwolligans@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (6 children)

'Female', when it's used in a non-clinical or technical context to describe a human woman. Everyone has a slip here or there, right, so, broad stroke take incoming, but, generally speaking, I've never met or talked with anyone who reliably refers to women as 'females' who actually respects them. It's a word you'd use to refer to a complete person only if you see them first and foremost as some kind of specimen, and it reaks to me of poor socialization, unhealthy relationship with that sex, or simply low class.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago

I always reflexively imagine a Ferengi from Star Trek going "feee-male"

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[–] HamsterRage@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Calling customers, "guests". A customer is someone with a business relationship with someone/something else. They're exchanging money for goods and services and have a right to expect certain value for their money.

A guest is something else entirely. A guest has no implicit right to expect a certain any particular level or quality of services. They are dependent on the magnamity of the "host".

Calling a customer a "guest" robs them of status.

[–] atkion@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This one's interesting, because it hails from a time when there was more of a cultural underpinning to the term - companies had a cultural obligation to at least keep up a facade of taking care of their customers, and calling customers guests was explicitly meant to convey a sense of safety and comfort.

It has the exact opposite effect now, because the customer's interests are often in direct opposition to those of the company. The company thinks it owns you, and no longer cares what you think about it.

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[–] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"woke" when meaning everything that doesn't align with ones fascist beliefs.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"woke" is just a catchall for "things I don't understand and don't like, and thus have hate towards"

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[–] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hate the word "home" in a real estate context. You do not buy a home. You buy a house and make it a home by living there with your family.

Similarly, "houselessness" is a dumb euphemism because what homeless people lack is literally a home, not just a house.

[–] yetiftw@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

except that you can have a home without having a house, so "houselessness" would be more accurate with that logic

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[–] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

"Stupid" or "smart" or "IQ". Take your pick.

Intellectual capacity is a social darwinist fantasy.

That includes insults that go along the lines of, "Trump supporters can't read."

[Aside: I dislike Trump supporters, mind you. But if they couldn't read (especially reading Breitbart, or the Epoch Times, or the text part to Russia-funded propaganda memes) that would actually be an improvement right now. Lower cognition would be an improvement if it were real.]

Anyways my reasons are as follows: I've tutored quite a few people, and never found one actually incapable of learning a particular concept.

I have, on the other hand, found a large number who were underconfident about their ability, citing their "low" intelligence specifically. And unlike their intellectual capacity, this belief in IQ was actually limiting. And harmful.

I have also encountered people (outside of my tutoring) who thought their "intelligence" was a source of superiority over the masses.

They were not superior people. Their vocabulary -- which people often use as a misguided proxy for intelligence -- was offputting because they often used words they had clearly never heard used in context. Indicating these words were added to their lexicon unorganically, pulled from a dictionary or thesaurus rather than an adventure novel, highlighting a strange set of priorities that always made these people suspicious to me.

Every time someone calls me smart, I tend to suspect they're trying to scam me.

Every time someone calls me stupid, I shrug because they clearly haven't met all of the people who call me smart.

But in all cases, they are invoking the idea that some people are just capable of more, and others are just capable of less. It's social darwinism, like I said.

And I find it disgusting.

If you want my respect, never appeal to social darwinism in my presence.

[–] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I agree that people throw terms like smart/intelligent around incorrectly, and often try to "sound smart", and I cringe at those things too.

...but you're also asserting that intellectual capacity doesn't exist and that is incorrect, or at least incomplete.

--TL;DR-- Intelligence is valuable and varies between people but it seems like everyone has the ability to be intelligent given the right conditions. The taboo around intelligence prevents us from getting underperforming kids the help they need.

The important truth is that we don't fully understand what contributes to intelligence.

We know that motivation is enormously important. The difference between being offered $1 and $10 explains something wild like >10 points on an IQ test. https://www.science.org/content/article/what-does-iq-really-measure

We also know that mental health and emotional state makes a big difference. So everything impacting mental health would contribute. https://bmcpsychology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40359-020-0372-2

These factors alone mean that our intellectual performance can change from moment to moment.

Another important distinction is that there are two kinds of intelligence, fluid and crystalized. Fluid intelligence is our ability to solve moment-to-moment interactions, and new and novel problems. Crystalized intelligence is the ability to take foundational principles that we've already been exposed to and use those to solve secondary, abstract, or complex problems. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_and_crystallized_intelligence

That second one is almost entirely based on the types of problems we've been exposed to in our lives, meaning that it's impacted by our previous behavior and our circumstances (which are largely out of our control).

We have no reason to believe that intelligence is some kind of immutable genetic trait that some have and some don't - in fact that's largely been debunked as far as I know.

However, the controversial field of behavioral genetics has demonstrated that a large percentage is our personalities and behaviors are impacted by our genetics. This would be an indirect factor. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201509/what-behaviors-do-we-inherit-genes

Where does this leave us?

A person may be more genetically predisposed to being hard working (trait conscientiousness), which may make them more likely to apply themselves to work and education, meaning that they have a higher intellectual capacity. Or, they may just follow instructions without thinking and have a lower intellectual capacity.

A person may experience an event that makes them highly value health, motivating them to become a doctor. Or they may behind afraid of medicine and avoid the subject altogether.

Similarly, a person may be told that they are stupid and that they will never amount to anything. They may believe it and give up, and never apply themselves. Or they may defy it and work harder to prove it untrue.

Your genetics and your circumstances don't determine what you will be capable of. However, they do have an impact. Ignoring that would be an enormous mistake.

Having two mentally healthy parents in a stable home with many books and many adults that care about you in your community will give you a better chance at scoring higher on IQ tests.

Having a single parent that's drug addicted and bouncing from home to home with no books and no caring adults in your community gives you a lower chance of scoring higher on IQ tests.

Higher IQ is correlated with a whole bunch of benefits, like having higher income and life expectancy.

The original implementation of IQ was to identify which school children needed intervention to help them succeed. It was never supposed to be an indicator of human value. That we've done that to it is a shame. It's basically the best tool that we have to figure out which kids need the most help.

I haven't found research that confirms raising IQ improves outcomes. But I have a hard time believing that helping kids learn (if they wanted the help, at least) would hurt their outcomes.

End rant.

Edit: oh, and the belief in intelligence as an immutable genetic trait is only social darwinism if higher intelligence makes people more likely to reproduce, which it doesn't. That's the premise behind Idiocracy. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25131282/

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[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (10 children)

"human resources", it dehumanizes the people it manages, comparing them to goods and things, rather than thinking of them as actual people with needs and their own desrires. But nope, they're just a resource for you to exploit

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[–] FluffyToaster621@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Gamer", despite being a basic description of someone who plays video games often, has always felt wrong to use or be called.

Doesn't help that it's only really ever used ironically or to mock someone, and if it's not that, it's used to advertise overpriced and mid-tier PC peripherals that could be used as makeshift flashlights.

spoilerNot that RGB lighting is bad, but it always feels like it's used to justify insane prices for stuff that either doesn't last that long, or malfunctions often.

[–] eratic@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's because "Gamer" make it part of your identity, instead of a hobby or something you do. It's like when people call me a cyclist, it makes it seem like it's the only thing I am when in reality I just use a bike to get around.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

I knew a physics professor who also did tours reading his poetry internationally. in an interview he was asked if he felt he was a physicist who did poetry or a poet who does physics, and he said when he's driving he's a motorist, when he's walking he's a pedestrian, when he's tucking his kids in he's a father. the idea of an umbrella identity is restrictive and is for other people to put you in a category

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[–] Smoogy@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Junkies”

These are people with addiction. they are people who have a problem. A common problem. And some starting with injuries. And they are vulnerable and taken advantage of the most by the very people making money off of them. People with addiction take the most blame and treated with utmost contempt for the very issue that is caused by the people who create the issue in the first place : Doctors and the pharmaceutical industry.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Engagement" in a social media context. Most of the time, I'm not engaging with anything, really. You wouldn't say you're engaging with your newspaper when you're reading it, or engaging with your TV by changing the channel. It's ridiculous

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[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

A customer is an equal who participates in business transactions.

A consumer is a being who's sole purpose is to acquire and use products.

[–] wrath-sedan@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate the word “taxpayer” to disparage anything government funded or that implies the government is cheating the average person. For example, I found this headline after 2 seconds of searching:

“The Taxpayer-Funded Electric Bus Company Pump and Dump Scheme that Benefitted Biden Donors”

They use “taxpayer” to make it sound like instead of citizens, we are customers who buy into government services, and should feel personally victimized by people who use government services as they are taking money from our pockets. And don’t even get me started on the “small business owner”…

EDIT: wow, unsurprisingly the word has always been used for political oppression (from ITPI):

“As the Brookings Institution’s Vanessa Williamson has documented, wealthy southern whites ​“focused their critique of Reconstruction on rising government debt and excessive spending, painting government by Black people and poor whites as intrinsically corrupt.” They called themselves “taxpayers,” allowing them to convince small white farmers to join their side while avoiding explicit opposition to Black male suffrage. Ultimately, they were successful.”

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[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't like the casual use of the word "hate"

Maybe it's just me but hate is quite an extreme emotion. It basically means you want something killed/destroyed. I know people don't often really hate the thing they claim to hate but I'm far enough on the spectrum to not take words literally.

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[–] Bewilderbeast@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ride share. It's supposed to mean "Hey, I'm going this way and if you are too, you can ride with me." It is currently used to mean ride hailing. You hail or call the ride with the apps and then pay for the ride. The driver and app developer isn't sharing anything.

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[–] Plaid_Kaleidoscope@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)
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[–] ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Slut". Especially when used in porn. I just find it so cringey how it's used to describe any woman with an active sexual appetite. "Whore" is another one.

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[–] Grishaix@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Bimbo. In German, it's the N-Word.

[–] duffkiligan@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You wrote out one of those two words. I don’t think they are comparable.

[–] whelks_chance@feddit.uk 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably because they're were writing in English, where the meanings will be different. Which is kinda the point.

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[–] denton@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

'Feed' like Facebook feed or twitter feed or whatever social media feed. I guess mostly for the same reason as OP's. It makes people sound like brainless zombies just grazing on whatever is 'fed' to us by advertisers/whatever the platform has been paid to push .

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