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[–] tty5@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

Now make a $12,000 version with door locks and a basic AC and I'll buy one this week. I miss 4th/5th gen Hilux

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Really wish we could get stuff like this in the US but like the article said the lane keeping, emergency braking, stability control, etc makes it blow up in costs and Americans are too obsessed with 8ft tall massive pickups and SUVs the size of school busses.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 12 points 10 months ago

American cinsumer here, I hate large trucks, especially qhen 99.8% of them I see on the road aren't hauling a damn thing.

I'd buy 2 hilux if I could.

[–] PizzasDontWearCapes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Screw all that "assistance" gear. My car ('17 GTI) auto braked for some leaves the other day while I was travelling 120kph

Luckily there wasn't anyone right behind me

[–] Professor_Piddles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

My wife's Audi keeps doing the same. The system also isn't smart enough to account for the rate of weight transition when ramming the brakes, so it immediately hits ABS and feels like it's trying to stop on ice. It's actually, genuinely fucking dangerous and enraging

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yea the brake assist fired on me the other day because I was coming to the base of a hill at decent speed and it thought it was a wall or something I guess. I turned off the lane assist within an hour of having the car since they don’t paint lines well in my state and it kept trying to steer me based off old half faded lines DOT didn’t remove when expanding roads or doing construction.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

American here, if someone made a cheap, small truck with no frills I'd buy one this afternoon.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Basically all I have in life is making sure my S10 is serviceable as my hearse. I keep telling my next of kin "Don't you rent no fuckin' flatbed Cadillac when I've got a perfectly serviceable Chevrolet. It carried me everywhere while I was alive, it can carry me one more time." Which for most of my adult life has meant keeping the thing in roadworthy condition, but now that I think about it probably also means I'm going to have to build an S10 compatible casket. I'm a slightly short and stocky guy, so you could build me a crate that'll fit between the bulkhead and the tailgate, but I bet all the ones down at the local funeral home are built for a 6 foot tall man, and that ain't gonna work.

I like my little truck, is what I'm trying to say.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Step side or no? I had 2 s10s in the late 90s and early 00’s since a dear took one from me. Loved those little trucks tho, both were that like copper/bronze/gold color. One stick and one automatic

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Smooth side, V6, 4 speed automatic, pewter metallic paint with chrome trim, charcoal interior. She's got 240,000 miles on the clock, I figure about 60,000 more and I'll have her properly broken in. She's my 16th birthday present and the only thing I've ever touched that didn't turn to pus.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nice, both of mine were over 200k when I bought them almost 20 years ago. Amazing yours just passed 200k now. Hope it lasts for ya, great vehicle.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

For years I commuted by motorcycle, and I've got a Buick I'm using up instead of my pickup at the moment.

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Those features cost almost nothing to implement at this point, and wouldn't add more than $1000 to the end price, if that.

Really, the main issues is that it likely is an absolute deathtrap in terms of impact safety, doubly so with our Truckasauruses everywhere. Not only that, but the reality is that, no matter how much people claim they want these barebones $10k cars, literally no one actually buys them.

Americans don't look at MSRP, they look at payments, and that makes ultra cheap cars extremely uncompetitive for both the consumer and the lender.

They might only be willing to finance that $10k car for 3 years, and that's a $300/mo payment, and they only make about $800 over the life of that loan. However, you move up to the $22.5k Corolla, they'll gladly finance it for 6 years, and for only $50/mo more you get a much nicer car and they make 6x as much in interest at $3500.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are those numbers actually correct? finance 10k for 4 years but 2.25x as much for 6? Final payments are 14'400 and 25'200 as per your numbers. So 4'400 vs. 2'700 profit plus much higher CAPEX for the lower profit?

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sorry, that's a mistype on my part, it's supposed to be 3 years, not 4.

[–] b000urns@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Would be cool if they made a sedan like this, a bare bones car sounds like something I would love

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dacia Sandero. The base model comes in white only and doesn't include a radio or power windows.

[–] endhits@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] kalteVollmilch@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

Oh no! Anyway, moving on..

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mitsubishi mirage. Or an Impreza. Outside of AA they don't have shit and are cheap.

Not a sedan but they ain't bigger than one .

[–] Somethingcheezie@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What’s AA

Air Conditioning nope Automatic Transmission nope Auto Lock nope

Anti Aircraft…. AA

[–] 8ace40@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Aire acondicionado

[–] Aurix@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] deleted@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No, Alcoholics Anonymous.

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

Lol it would be cheaper to import that then most cars in canada cost

[–] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I wonder what the cost is on the upgraded ones or if they'll even be available, I assume one would also want the bigger engine