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The transphobia stops now (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
 

This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you're here it's because you're aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not "just asking questions".

If your response to that is, "yes, but..." then this isn't the instance for you, and by extension, this isn't the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to "unambiguous support", as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

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[–] TTH4P@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] detectivesniffles@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

WHATS THAT SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU IM CRANKING THE HOG RIGHT NOW TRANSPHOBES GTFO (DISRESPECTFULLY) 🏳️‍⚧️

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every single transphobe right now:

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Literally right below this.

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[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

This is what the fediverse was created for. Casual transphobia doesn't need to be permitted and I fully support that.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Not gay as in happy, but queer as in fuck you!"

TRANS RIGHTS blobhaj, flag, trans, transgender

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[–] alternative_factor@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (20 children)

There was transphobia in 196? HOW?

[–] unmarketableplushie@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One of the mods made a post about how this comment being really creepy about trans men's bodies somehow wasn't transphobic and then deleted it after people started calling them out lol

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you for providing good context on this thread. The original comment was ass, but not important overall. If the mod hadn't decided to explicitly defend it, this wouldn't even be a conversation. This entire discourse would have been avoided if it wasn't for a shitty mod post.

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[–] expected_crayon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Thank god. Reddit and Twitter were ruined by the transphobic and Nazis. Glad that isn’t tolerated here.

[–] ombremad@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you so much. We need that more than anything right now — where transphobic content tends to be the default on the web.

If this is the time to go full aggressive for our rights, count me in!

(And if you’re here to passive-aggressively complain about how you « don’t care about people’s sexuality » and making everyone notice you’re leaving — let me be very active-aggressive in saying « good fucking riddance » to you.)

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[–] toadstorm@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i am old and cis but trans shitposters are the best shitposters, this is indisputable. you have my support

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Zoop@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Dee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

~~Can you see my reply? I'm on lemmy.world and I thought it was still defederated from Beehaw so I shouldn't be able to see your comment O_o~~ (I'm used to being more active on my beehaw account so using my lemmy.world account threw me off, disregard this lol)

P.S. Yay trans rights and having a pro-trans meme space 😄

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trans people are regular, real people. Like my college friend. Or my wife's HS friend. Or that one kind soul I worked with once.

I'm so god damn sick of all the hatred and lies and bullshit and murder and sadistic laws against trans people.

I loudly applaud any space that actively supports trans people and gives them a place free from hatred and assholes.

[–] EremesZorn@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

The fact that they need a space away from everyone else, and the fact that this post even had to be made, is a testament to mankind's inhumanity to man. People are people, but there's an unsettling amount of people that can't see past creed, color, sexuality, and so on.
I'd say it's a monument to our own hubris as well. We're the most advanced civilization that we know exists, but still can't seem to treat members of our own society right.

[–] RavenFellBlade@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Trans rights are women's rights.

Trans rights are men's rights.

Trans rights are human rights.

If you believe otherwise, you're doing nothing less than questioning the basic humanity of Trans people. And you can fuck right off.

[–] Nyla_Smokeyface@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's comforting to know that this community is intolerant of transphobia

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[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn ~~straight~~ queer.

I'm just your run-of-the-mill white cismale dude, but I know several trans people in real life including an old friend of mine and a 7-year-old kid across the street from me. Everyone deserves respect and dignity of life.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember; not supporting trans rights means you're on the same side as those using laws and judges to strip women of their autonomy around the world. <3

[–] EremesZorn@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Which is why it's important to give no quarter to fascism and theocracy no matter where you live.
Proud to carry my Satanic Temple card right next to my goddamn union membership book.

[–] tanja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

100% based; Was already worried where this community was headed

BLÅHAJ Lemmy W

[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm mostly just a lurker in this community but here I go: Trans rights are human rights 👍

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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Damn straight. Us queers need to stand together and there can be no god damn LGBTQ+ without the flippin T.

[–] HerbalGamer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Somewhat relevantly, I've long since wondered what even is the use of a patriarchy if men still can't wear skirts and nail polish.

[–] kep@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Trans people are cool. Love em. Full human rights for everyone, end discrimination. This post, though, is obnoxious though.

Sending edicts out to the public is never the play. Use your sidebar. Moderate stuff. Make it cool to not be a bigot. But the second you start doing goofy shit like this, you're painting a target on your back and coming across way more fragile than you must actually be.

I personally have a policy about blocking any community that has admins who feel it necessary to try to police people's thoughts. As much as bigots piss me off, this isn't how people conduct themselves in a place that purports to be a safe haven. You don't patronize and denigrate the general public out of frustration, unless you want them as an enemy for some reason. The idea you needed you adjust your terminology in retrospect confirms how poorly you wrote your initial message.

Also, I have to say, "We allowed 196 to be here" is a curious statement. What exactly did you allow? Is opening a community a big endeavor? I've opened up a bunch, and never have I felt like I was owed someone for doing it.

Ban bad behavior. Don't try to tell people how to think. We have a word for the latter and it's not pretty.

[–] animelivesmatter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

admins who feel it necessary to try to police people's thoughts

massive self report that you consider the admins saying "don't be transphobic on our instance" to be "policing people's thoughts"

[–] Robaque@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're not telling anyone "how to think". They're telling transphobes and "trans sceptics" to fuck off. And who cares if they do it with a pinned post rather than a sidebar announcement? Some apps hide the sidebar in a menu.

Also when you say you opened a bunch of communities, do you mean you hosted them? Because those two women are literally running the server this instance is running on. Doesn't sound all that easy to me.

[–] MBM@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

we allowed 196 to be here

These aren't mods talking, it's admins. They manage and pay for the server 196 is hosted on, that's a pretty big endeavor

So block this instance? I'm not sure why you feel the need to post about it.

Also I have a bone to pick about the 'telling people how to think is wrong. We have a word for the latter and it's not pretty'. Firstly that's pretty polemic for no good reason. Assuming you're dancing round the word fascist, it seems pretty unpleasant and unnecessary to allude to the group that committed genocide of queer people and deliberately destroyed research into trans issues to set it back decades.

Now onto the substance of the claim -- that telling people how to think is fascist. This is completely absurd, the key difference being that fascists don't just 'tell people how to think'; they brutally enforce it with violence.

This post and the trans women making it are not about to use the full force of the state to prevent people thinking about transphobia. What they are doing is posting that, to take part in the community that they are investing money to host, you must unambiguously support trans rights.

The comparison you have implied is completely and utterly absurd, and the dramatic language and comparisons you have used to make it is cringe.

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[–] MaryTzu@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trans women are women. Girldick is best dick.

Know that you are loved. ^And also sexually objectified. Sorry bout that... ^

-Sincerely a cis lesbian.

[–] Velociraptor@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Can you explain the girldick thing? I'm a transman and that comes off as one of the many things that are low key alienating in expressions of support, but it's possible I'm just mistaken.

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Making all the transphobes come out of the woodwork to get banned with this one~ Appreciate everyone's unambiguous support <3

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Hello, Based Department, we've got another Based Community here.

Trans rights are human rights!

[–] LargestDong@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ohhhh you are that crazy person that loves to censor the shit out of anyone who dares speak out against your insanity

[–] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

Brother, that's not how we talk to people. Everyone here is treated like people and respected for their personhood. This isn't a theatre for bigoted nonsense - there's other platforms available if you want to attack people and get that out of your system.

Show people respect or leave people alone - but don't be like that.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

She doesn't like to, she does it because queer people are constantly being attacked and berated and then when we get tired of the shit, people get surprised and go, "oh why are you being so defensive, you're overly reactive". And she isn't insane, she's proud, protective, and proactive with a very low tolerance for any indication of more bullshit.

Personally, I would discuss certain events more fully, try to educate and understand, but, for better or for worse, the person with responsibility for the instance and everybody in it decided less chances rather than more and doesn't give a flying fuck what anybody thinks, and the more you press her, the more she's gonna tyrant all over you, and, honestly, most of the users here have her back because she's got ours.

Just... Be better to people, let others walk away from you if they want without YOU being a crazy person and being sensitive, reactive, and lashing out unnecessarily. You ever think about that perspective? You don't have to say anything, just move along and leave us in peace. Maybe once everything cools down in the future, she'll renegotiate and reanalyze and possibly consider reconnecting. Y'all can defed from us crazy folk if you want at that time. You're free to walk away too.

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