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Already looking ahead to the turmoil his re-election could cause, Donald Trump and his allies are reportedly circling an idea to invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office, deploying the military to act as domestic law enforcement.

According to a Washington Post report on Sunday, the drafting of such plans has largely been “unofficially outsourced” thus far to a coalition of right-wing think tanks working under the title “Project 2025.” It was identified as an immediate priority for the hypothetical resurrected Trump administration, internal communications obtained by the newspaper showed.

In response to questions from the Post, Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung provided a statement: “President Trump is focused on crushing his opponents in the primary election and then going on to beat Crooked Joe Biden,” he said. “President Trump has always stood for law and order, and protecting the Constitution.”

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[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago

I'm so sick of these treasonous jackals.

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, I was hoping that since we're obviously gonna end up with a dystopia, that it would be a cyberpunk one, but here we are, gonna be stuck with a regular boring ass dictatorship.

[–] LeadSoldier@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

At least people will understand why we are revolting. Convincing the world of your cause is usually the hard part.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Is america really this retarded?

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trump lost the popular vote last time but still got enough state victories to win with Electoral College votes, and he is less popular now than then, but his base is very vocal and with so many adults disassociating themselves with the Republican Party it makes it a very bottom of the barrel pool for candidates.

The problem is there is only one other national party with any chance of winning, and their candidate just gave more weapons to the nation currently bombing children's hospitals and refugee camps.

So while the average US Citizen might be better than this, our ancestors built a system and our elders corrupted it to the point where a large enough coalition of below average people can destroy the nation. Yes, we're really that stupid.

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[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My sister in law: Ahem, fake news. Checkmate librul.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Also my extremely gay ex-online friend who used to be a Democrat until he hit himself on the head with 4chan:

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Your average American voter is apparently a goldfish.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Its even retarder than that

[–] zdrvr@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

About 40% is yes...which is enough to cause serious issues.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's a good documentary on this - Idiocracy.

[–] Cerbero@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yet those people were smarter than his supporters. they saw someone smart and decided to put him in power.

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[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yes. Kill me, please.

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[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fascist power fantasy. No need to sugarcoat it.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

conservative

fascist

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[–] clutchmatic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

a conservative power fantasy

Yeah, but if people think this is harmless and don't go vote, this might become true anyway

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, but please keep telling me how a three year age difference is more important than US democracy...

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I'm missing some context.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That poster is complaining about the people who view Biden as too old, while Trump is only three years younger.

[–] rchive@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Biden IS too old.

And also Trump is too old. And a crazy person. Lol

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That's what I hate so much about our "liberal media" system. They keep both sidering stuff like Biden's age vs. donnie's overt appeal to fascism.

[–] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like to think I can read pretty good, but I couldn't figure out how the post summary is related to the article.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Dailybeast does a "doomscroll" load next article thing. That paragraph is from that. Its on the same page, so the bot likely just fucked up. Here's the article name if y'all want context:

Inside the Mean-Girl Army Going to War for a Celebrity Dietician

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How to have large swathes of the military join the protestors, step 1.

People IMO VASTLY overestimate the popularity of the Republicans among the troops. It probably breaks about the same way as the general populace, and as far as being willing to follow orders to march against protestors, the troops that would do it are probably more worried about their own fellow soldiers turning on them than they are about being reprimanded for saying no.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (12 children)

That might be the point. Deploy the military in a low stakes situation to see who listens. Kick all the defactors out of the military. Then, when you actually need them, you are left with a military full of loyalists.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 year ago

And the guy called Cheung is behind that quote? Wake up sweety, you'd go into conc camps, just like asian-looking americans did while the ww2 was going on.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They would have to do something about Posse Comitatus first.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/posse-comitatus-revisited-use-military-civil-law-enforcement

"The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which removed the military from regular civil law enforcement, was enacted in response to the abuses resulting from the extensive use of the army in civil law enforcement during the Civil War and the Reconstruction. The Act allows legislated exceptions."

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Because, as we've seen, Trump would totes follow the Rule of Law...then again, who needs silly things like Laws when you become the self-declared Lord Emperor after "fixing" America.

[–] CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

"abuses... during the Civil War and the Reconstruction", as if there wasn't a bunch of states that not only rebelled, but refused to enforce Federal law after the civil war.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cute that you think Trump believes he's beholden to the law.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago

Trump was the exemplary student of "Escalation 101" at Dicks University.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate this fucking timeline so much. So many in the media seem to be working toward normalizing this obvious march into fascism, and pivoting to stupid horse race bullshit (the average voter thinks Biden is "too old" and so on).

If donnie "wins" the election (likely only the EC again) then this country is just so fucked. It's over at that point.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's obvious that 2016 is the branching point of where we deviated from the prime timeline. There it's just too much foreshadowing about Hillary being the first female president, and everything seem to go wrong when we killed that gorilla. He Quantum immortalited it so he only died in this shitty timeline

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[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

that's how you turn a cold civil war into a hot civil war

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

And yet not a single person with the power to do anything right now - is doing anything right now.

Motherfucker is still outright disrespecting our entire system of justice - or whatever is left of it for the rich.

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[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Correct. That's the plan

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Vee heil, heil, right in der Führer's face.

[–] Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They’re going to meet some metaphorical roadblocks along the military chain of command, and they’ll meet physical roadblocks of well equipped citizens who won’t stand for this.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not to start a conspiracy but I was wondering if the single GOP member holding up all military promotions was all him taking the fall/ getting ready for only promoting those who will follow suit. Hopefully it can't work like that, but it would make sense

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The first part maybe, but the second - no.

There might be pockets of small arms fire and a few civ x mil casualties, but anything beyond that is pure fantasy. It would quickly become a question of "are you willing to go on a kamikaze guaranteed suicide mission to be heard and die at the hands of the US military, now, today, in protest?"

"They can't stop us all!"

True, but you don't have "us" all. You think my 99 year old grandmother is going to fight the US military? What about my friends 5 year old? What about my father in law who cares for another elderly relative and is their only hope of survival? What about my wife who needs regular medication?

There are so many of us who, despite our extreme ideological opposition to fascism simply wouldn't be effective infantry. Hell even most people who regularly hunt deer and shoot guns daily at the range will fall to military tactics, because hunting a garrison of soldiers in vehicles, with air support and explosives, who shoot back, and have been trained in how to reinforce their positions etc is very different to shooting a static paper target that's not behind cover in a straight line ahead of you at eye level.

I reckon, if I got the jump on an unsuspecting soldier who wasn't expecting it, and I was armed, I'd have a 55% chance of murdering him. Add just one other person watching his back and I'd be dead before I could do more than bruise him.

The 2A Fantasy of fighting back against a tyrannical government requires a well-organized militia. Which means putting Sunday school teachers, middle managers, dentists and retail workers through months of boot camp training. During those months, who's fighting?

Just look at Israel / Palestine. We'd be Palestine. Yes, a few guerilla tactics would kill dozens of soldiers, who'd then retaliate and kill thousands of civilians, while the rest of the world goes, "Oh no."

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[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

No need to worry about world war 3 starting in the middle East if we start it right here in America.

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