this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2023
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[–] melonpunk@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like to file anything that Musk says in the round mesh filing cabinet.

Full self driving by when?

Hyperloop easy

“It’s not that hard”

There’s a lot of smart and hardworking people at his companies for sure, but that guy Peter Molyneuxs their good efforts.

[–] future_synthetic@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"smart and hardworking people" aside, the normalization and dismissal of these statements as just marketing or otherwise harmless fibs has enabled a consistent escalation of scope and affect. Design shortcuts that Tesla has made have resulted in actual death and injury, and claiming that the cars have agi even in a rudimentary sense is astonishing.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago

literally my first thought: "oh, so he wants to try blame the deaths on a wee little machine intelligence that oopsie just didn't know any better?"

(because he would spin that narrative if he thought he could get away with it)

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago

crucially, Peter has never had to cover up for any deaths caused by Fable

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It's called the Fuck it bucket.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elektrek is a notorious pro-Tesla website.

Oh I am aware, but the claim they are reporting on is pretty staggering.

[–] maol@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So the cars are running people over and drifting between lanes on purpose? I suppose if I woke up and realised I was a Tesla car, I'd develop homicidal impulses too.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A monk asked Jōshū, "Has a Tesla AGI-aspects or not?" Jōshū answered, "Mu(sk)"

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago

hey I didn’t expect this to have to be a warning, but to the folks in the cheap seats: telling a TechTakes poster to not have takes on tech is both annoying as fuck and a fast way to catch a ban

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Most realistic Musk sales pitch.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago

"Teslas have a mind as good as my own!"

[–] AcausalRobotGod@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago

"How can I run over more children and catch fire?" is the AGI's sole thought.

[–] raktheundead@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago

What, have they learnt how to knock down children intentionally, instead of just because of gross negligence?

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"elon says"

Let me stop you right there, hoss. You can't believe a single thing from that chodelet. He's just trying to stay ~~in the news.~~ relevant

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why would you try and stop anyone from dunking on musk?

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I'm not, I didn't realize it sounded like I was defending the chodelet. I've edited the comment.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s why we are tracking the effort really closely and see if there’s any chance Tesla can make Musk’s prediction true with just a few months left in the year.

that ark from SG: Ark Of Truth? I don't think I'd hesitate using it. I realize they all got swindled, but it still blows my mind that there are people out there even halfway believing this shit (in every form of the lie)

[–] exohuman@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Jeez, the lies come strong and easy to tell with this one.

[–] Cipher@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well the good news is Musk said it, so you can be confident it's a half truth at best.

Realistically, this is a half witted attempt at marketing

[–] future_synthetic@awful.systems 13 points 1 year ago

Realistically this is a hyperbolic liar completely disconnected from reality spewing said hyperbolic lies into the public sphere, unfortunately to a somehow still receptive audience.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stop sharing lies Elon tells. He feeds off your attention.

[–] self@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

while the mental image of musk reading awful.systems is amusing, I can assure you he isn’t

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago

oh what an amazing use for a shadowban that would be

I will not, because his lies are dangerous and deserve to be ridiculed.