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[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All children in Gaza are terriosts! Or potential terriosts! Isreal NEEDS to bomb ambulances, hospitals and water wells because that is where all the terriosts are! ya see?Any amount of infrastructure supports terriosism! Bombing is a nessecity!

It's outright ghoulish.

[–] quatschkopf34@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, it‘s actually true that Hamas uses civil infrastructure and civilians as shields, you can’t deny that. Of course that doesn‘t mean that Israel can just bomb everything.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

in an area where the population density is 5,300 people/km2 "human shields" is a quite weak argument. It is practically impossible to seperate civillian and military infrastructure in such densely populated areas.

For comparision the Netherlands has about 500 people/km2 and it is one of the most densely populated countries in Europe.

[–] quatschkopf34@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a difference between the close proximity of military and civilian infrastructure because of a high population density and actively choosing hospitals as military bases.

[–] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another great way of not getting your civilians targeted is to wear identifying uniforms.

It's almost like Hamas doesn't want to prevent civilian casualties.

[–] maryjayjay@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that totally justifies killing everyone in sight

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

No, but it does justify telling all civilians to evacuate weeks before launching an actual full scale attack, increasing their odds of survival from 0% to 90%. War is ugly.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ain't that the truth. Not to mention the Israeli children gutted and beheaded by Hamas back on Oct 7th. Our tax dollars didn't pay for that, but they sure are going toward ensuring more kids and regular civilians are turned into worm food for some nonsensical war over a strip of land neither side really wants to be stuck with.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nonsensical war over a strip of land

I've struggled to understand why civilians on either side have wanted to continue residing in that specific zone after decades of clashes/violence. I know it's not as simple as just uprooting your family to move elsewhere, but as a parent I know I'd rather any other option than living in constant fear of unbridled violence erupting at any moment in a highly volatile area.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, a part of it is that the people of Gaza are not allowed to leave.

There are only a handful of crossings out of Gaza and Israel controls all but one. The Egyptian crossing leads out into a desolate desert with no services.

Want to hop on a boat and flee that way? Israel will torpedo you. Want to walk up to the wall to see the boundary of your prison? Israel will machine gun you down, no questions asked, no warnings given.

A large portion of the population of Gaza started out as refugees, forced out of their homes and off of their land so that Zionist settlers could have it.

[–] Guydht@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Even given the option, most if not all will choose to not leave. Since 48 the Palestinians have been chanting "from the river to the sea" and not taking lots of peace treaties offered by Israel and other nations, based on the premise that they'll stay in their current 67 border.

Not to mention lots of Jews also don't wanna live in a non-jewish state of fear of prosecution, pogroms and antisemitism, which you can see examples of happening right now in Europe.

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

poor poor "palestinian" cinnamon rolls, never did nothin to nobody

awww cry me a fucking river, guess instead of having all those islamofascist muslim nations vote against israel time and time again, they should have gotten egypt to invade gaza sooner, through it's land crossing in raffah, to root out hamas, pij, and all the other terrorists who attack israel. what is that you say, the united nations islamofascists don't mind when muslim terrorists attack israel and kill jews, only when jews respond with force in their defense?

you don't say

Gaza was given to Arabs for self rule and determination in 2005, all Jews left Gaza, even Jewish graveyards were dug up and moved, it was theirs to do with as they liked.

They've spent the last 18 years making into a terrorist Disneyland with a dozen Islamofascist terrorist organizations with the stated goal of killing Jews and destroying the state of Israel, they've fired hundreds of thousands of missiles into Israel indiscriminately targeting civilians, and launched countless cross borders attacks against Jewish civilians, including one that caused the largest loss of Jewish life in any single day, anywhere, since the Holocaust on October 7th.

They were given Gaza to live in freedom and self determination, they used it to kill Jews. They were warned. They chose to ignore the warnings.

These acts of terrorism were perpetrated by the entire Gazan community, they voted for Hamas, and allowed Hamas to rule their government for the last 17 years, Hamas and all the other Islamic terrorists in Gaza are not outsiders, they were born in Gaza of Gazans, they were raised in Gaza, they were educated in Gaza, they married and had children of their own in Gaza, their Parents, teachers, mosques, hospitals, are all in Gaza, from which they use to hid and store weapons to attack Jews, Hamas, PIJ and all the other Islamic terrorist in Gaza ARE Gaza, there has been no uprising in Gaza, there have only been attacks on Israel. This is what Gazans have supported and sacrificed for in every way they possibly could.

And now it's here. I do hope they enjoy what they've worked generationaly to achieve.

There will be no ceasefire this time.

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