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[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 108 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Combine that with the 83% price increase in Australia!

YouTube can eat shit, they're screwing over even those of us willing to pay, Smarttube here I come!

[–] Thisismyusername169@lemmy.one 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep! More people need to learn about Smarttube and Revanced!

Spread the word!

[–] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely. They work way better than YouTube itself.

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I've been a YouTube premium subscriber since before it existed. Last night I installed ReVanced.

It is not better than the default experience with premium. But it is pretty close. I'm using a patched version of the YouTube client, after all. The default client is not πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί$17/month better by a long shot.

I am still undecided on whether to wear the price increase. I have until March to decide.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As plenty of other people have already said, if YouTube Premium went up by a pittance every month (boiling frog price increases) I would probably keep subscribing. The fact that they A) clamped down on AdBlockers and B) increased Premium rates is a major disappointment.

Add to this that Patreon are introducing invasive User Agreements and it is getting more difficult to support Independent content creators.

Platforms like Curiosity Stream are looking more and more appealing to those of us who want interesting content and don’t mind parting with a reasonable amount of cash to support creators.

[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't give Google $32.99/m for YouTube, no matter how slowly they increased the price, that's utterly ridiculous.

I've used Curiosity Stream and Nebula before, would happily go back.

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[–] someacnt@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So sad that lots of people would gobble up thst shit, thinking that it's still worthwhile price.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

When we are paying that same amount for Netflix and/or Disney+ and/or whatever other streaming service and all the content is shit, paying for YouTube Premium was pretty good value.

There is a market of niche video content that is not ever going to be fulfilled by the Mainstream streaming companies, content creators need to be able to fund their content creation and I fucking hate Ads.

If I can pay a small amount to avoid the Ads, don’t have to participate in the arms race of Ad Blockers and still know that the content creators are getting paid I will be happy to pay.

Unfortunately, Google has increased that pittance progressively over time and have now increased it dramatically. They have also introduced a payment platform to try and muscle out Patreon. This suggests that the money from my subscription is not getting the the creators.

I can’t pay a small amount to avoid ads any more. Content creators are not getting paid, and I am being forced to either not get the content any more or start investigating Ad Blockers.

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

If it company had clear rules, guidelines, treated creators like humans, I'd be glad to pay for premium too

[–] what@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tried to watch the Thursday night football recap yesterday and accidentally opened YouTube instead of smarttube. I was shocked. I watched a minute of ads to start and one minute in I had another minute of ads. YouTube was basically unwatchable.

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 43 points 1 year ago

I honestly don't know how people can tolerate it.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend using ABD and removing the original app so you don't accidentally click it again

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] zerofatorial@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I love how none of the people who replied to this comment didn’t notice you were just pointing a typing error 🀣

[–] Paradoxvoid@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Android Debug Bridge - it's a tool you can use to access parts of Android you don't normally have access to directly on the phone.

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[–] Jailbrick3d@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

installing better adblockers

or just updating uBlock lol. not sure what YouTubes team was expecting here

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Some people use Google Chrome or other Chromium-based browsers that don't support proper ad-blockers because Google deprecated MV2. Firefox and its forks like LibreWolf are the only usable browsers nowadays, they are the only ones that support MV2 and proper ad-blockers like uBlock Origin.

[–] scrchngwsl@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I updated ublock but it didn't stop the ads, so I can see others doing the same. I'm guessing it didn't actually pull the very latest version or the very latest block lists for whatever reason, but others might be less patient than me.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Make sure you have no other adblockers, disable enhanced tracking protection for youtube (shield icon at address bar) and make sure you have no other custom rules set for youtube.

Also you don't need to update all the filters. Just the quick fixes section -> click the clock icon and then update.

Also this all assumes you mean uBlock Origin, not just uBlock.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Use firefox and disable all other adblockers

[–] Jailbrick3d@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

didn't work for me at first too, but other YouTube specific ad blockers had side effects (videos opened in new tabs would play automatically instead of waiting for you to switch to that tab, etc)

here's what I did:

  • reset uBlock to default settings, then purge caches and update

  • clear all caches in your browser (in Firefox/Chrome you can just search for cache in the settings search bar and it'll come up)

  • fully close and reopen browser

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's an assymetric cat-and-mouse game.

YouTube does it for revenue and has to spend money to enhance their anti-adblock system, while there is an army of volunteers online who will gladly defeat these enhancements for free with an impact on a massive scale.

[–] habanhero@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But YouTube has A LOT of money

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Internet has A LOT of volunteers

[–] habanhero@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm thankful for the volunteers but goodwill is not gonna last forever. Especially easy to burnout on goodwill when casual users goes apeshit on devs whenever things don't work. The system is stacked against volunteers.

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[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 year ago

For every tech company with an r&d team fighting this stuff, there's a plethora of programming wizards whose sole purpose in life is to defeat them.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or worse, they are just using third party clients.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are there any yt 3rd party that support chromecasting?

That is the only thing keeping me from switching away from the official app.

[–] dgsoa@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use YouTube revanced. Chromecast works, just have to turn it on in settings.

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I believe grayjay does

[–] Kyrinar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Can you Chromecast embedded videos? Invidious has a link on every video that just embeds the YouTube vid full-size in a blank page. The ad bullshit doesn't work with embeds.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I was wondering because I have yet to see an adblock warning and I use YouTube daily.

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[–] BeefDaddySupreme@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Dontfearthereaper123@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stopped working for me for some reason. Had to switch to Firefox mobile site

[–] Meltrax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remove it and use the patch manager to reinstall, make sure to use the recommended APK. It just requires manually updating sometimes, basically.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 14 points 1 year ago

Never would've guessed.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've heard others say that many people are uninstalling ad blockers.

I guess its just how you interpret the data

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

What's often left out is people are uninstalling terrible ad blockers and installing better ones. The terrible ones allow certain ads (from advertisers who pay to get through) or even inject their own ads.

Some disinformative articles are trying to use that to claim that because people are uninstalling [insert bad scammy adblocker name] that people are uninstalling adblockers altogether.

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[–] vamp07@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I pay for YouTube premium, but it's a lot of money given they have $0 production cost.

[–] Kramt@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Production, sure. Operational costs, not so much zero. I don't understand how people think video streaming on any scale can be supported without any income. I don't think they're recent pricehike is reasonable, but to think anyone deserves to be able to stream 4k video (albeit low bit rate) without any sort of compensation is beyond me.

I pay for Youtube Premium, because I get a legit way to bypass ads and the creators I watch gets payed more than if I watched ads, but I also use an adblocker pretty much everywhere because they are intrusive and annoying. However I'm not under any illusion that doing so does directly hurt the income of the sites I visit.

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People doesn't really seem to understand how costly and difficult it is to offer a service with 99.99% availability.

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[–] Nahdahar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I'm completely aware of the financial issues YouTube is facing, but they got themselves into this mess (and most other companies as well, who provide a service for "free"). They make users accustomed to a level of service, build a userbase and ride on investments with the expectation that they'll figure out how to make money when they reach mass adoption.

The fact that youtube premium took years to even conceptualize is a massive failure on their part. Or how 1080p+ video wasn't a paid feature to begin with. Making your users get used to a level of service, then making their experience more miserable and selling a solution to the problem they made does not bode well with people who have been on the platform before "things turned to shit".

It also doesn't help that the first course of action was to increase the amount of ads, increase retainment, "enshifficate" the platform in order to increase the time people spend on the site (=more ad revenue). Now I'm at a point that I can't use YouTube without uBlock, sponsorblock, return youtube dislikes and Revanced (includes the latter two extensions for mobile), turning useless features off (or with the case of dislikes, back on) and stopping the bombardment of ads.

Youtube premium would still provide me with a worse experience, so why would I switch? They should figure out how to provide people additional value for their money, and shouldn't have accustomed people to a level of service that they 100% knew wouldn't be sustainable.

[–] justJanne@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

The big issue I see with YouTube premium (though I'm a paid subscriber) is that the bitrate is still far too low. Vimeo provided much better quality a decade ago for paid users and so do Nebula, Floatplane and all the other competing sites nowadays

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[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

I just got an email saying the subscription will go up by 60% in April (I'm on a grandfathered premium plan).

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

The worst-case endgame is, you can send the videos, but they'll never reach my eyeballs. Send those frames to /dev/null and store the video stream where I can watch it as often as I like.

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