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[–] Trippin@feddit.nl 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No, the earth will not be ok of we do the bare minimum

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh the earth will absolutly be ok. It's we that won't be.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or in the worst case, all life on Earth won't be ok.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

No, life in general would be fine. It will be (already is) a mass extinction but earth had a couple of those and life will bounce back.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The worst case scenario is turning Earth into a planet with a climate like Venus's.

A planet that proves the existence of runaway greenhouse effects btw.

It is theoretically possible that life exists there, but multicellular life is considered unlikely, and we'll probably never get to take surface samples, given it's been measured at 464 Celsius.

We probably can't fuck up the planet that badly, but toss in a nuclear exchange to greenhouse effects and an unfortunate volcanic eruption or two?

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You say that as it’s not a big deal.

Do you really want to see a world without dolphins, pandas, tigers, anacondas..?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think he's saying it's not a big deal for us, but for the planet.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I know, but that’s a very detached and unemotional take… Sure “life” will keep existing. But not the life we know. That we love. That we grew up loving so much.

I understand not everyone feels exactly like me. But I was absurdly fascinated by biology books and wildlife documentaries and would read and watch them religiously as a child.

Thinking of all of that just dying and ending truly breaks my heart. Almost more than anything.

Just not as much as the thought of humanity disappearing. But I know most people share that sadness.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The question is on a scale of the extinction event at the end of the last ice age to the End Permian Extinction Event aka the Great Dying how bad do we want it

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or, if instead of reducing emissions, we try to geo-engineer our way out of global warming, screw it up, and create a real snowball Earth.

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As opposed to geo-engineering our way into global warming like we have been?

"Oh no, don't try anything! We might be too successful."

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think that depends on how you define the bare minimum.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Ok fair. But what if I do nothing instead???

[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

of course the moon exists, but it is hollow. it is a reptilian space ship and arrived 12.8k years ago

[–] Senseless@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

How can it be hollow if it is made out of cheese?

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And the Nazis flew their UFOs through a hole in Antarctica into their secret base.

There really were people who thought the world was hollow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreshanity

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some people have always believed batshit stuff with no good supporting evidence. But anti-intellectualism has been on the rise for the past, day, 30 years in particular.

Carl Sagan presciently called it out in "A Demon-Haunted World" back when new age and crystals and alien abductions were popular woo woo beliefs.

It seems to have become more popular to reject "bOoK LaRnin'" in favor of anti-science, which has also been co-opted for political purposes.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Full quote for somber appreciation, emphasis mine:

I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The freedoms of speech and expression have morphed into a freedom of stupidity, and it really, really sucks that this isn't something we as a culture have proven able to repudiate.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Using your freedom of speech to tell someone they're a moron that should shut the fuck up doesn't count as free speech, apparently.

Also, 1a specifically refers to the government silencing you.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eh back then it was just evolution and climate change instead of this stuff

[–] Elivey@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, not instead of, but as well as... We're still dealing with the anti climate change and evolution people =\

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don’t forget about vaccines. The anti-vax craze happened well before the pandemic. Vaccines cause adultism.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

So that's why anti-vaxxers are so childish?

[–] Strobelt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That would explain the vast amounts of menchildren in their 30s lately

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's 2023... People still believe some dude walked on water... And some other dude split the moon in half with a sword.. Then put it back... The stupid has been with us since forever.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Woah, what's the second one from?

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quran.

Although I think Scientology is by far still the most fucked up story: Possessed by aliens.

[–] countflacula@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Possessed by very confused alien souls that got here because an intergalactic alien warlord named Xenu wanted to do a genocide so he rounded up a bunch of other aliens, tied them to volcanoes on Earth, bombed those volcanoes with hydrogen bombs, captured their souls and made them go to therapy.

(For those who may have missed that south park episode)

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I mean, that is the crux of the OTs. There's a reason they tell members that it's dangerous knowledge that will literally kill anyone who sees or hears it before they've been prepared by scientology. Anyone who claims to know and isn't an OT is clearly lying because they are alive, so the silly alien soul story is clearly a lie until you've been brainwashed enough.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That exhaustion is the whole point.

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[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The moon does exist there's just 3 of them. Single moon theory is a a hoax /s

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also science way back: "Hey guys, isn't phlogiston just the absolute best? And lobotomies are so cool they deserve a Nobel prize."

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol fair.

But the difference between science and superstition: science gets closer to the truth over time in spite of ourselves while superstition either keeps the same bullshit or makes up new bullshit regardless of evidence or lack thereof.

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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

really do be like that

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Scientists =/= Science Educators.

Both groups existed decades ago and still exist today

[–] ArdMacha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's almost as if Western Governments have been cutting funding to education or something

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