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A good example is https://lemmy.world/c/documentaries

One of their mods, https://lemmy.world/u/sabbah, currently mods 54 communites despite only being on Lemmy for about a month and has never posted on c/documentaries (except for his post asking for people to join his mod team).

The other mod, https://lemmy.world/u/AradFort, has one post to c/documentaries and moderates 18 communities.

Does Lemmy.World have a plan to remove this kind of cancer before we start getting reddit supermods here too?

Edit: This comment shows how this is even more dangerous than I had thought.

Edit2: Official answer from LW admin is here

Final: Was going to create an issue for this on the Lemmy github, but I browsed for awhile and found that it had already been done. If anyone wants to continue the discussion there, here it is - https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3452

Perhap we need another issue for the problem in the original edit (It being impossible currently to remove a 'founding' mod without destroying either the community of their account)

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[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I knew this would happen and that's why I am FOR hardcoded community limits per user unless an admin, in individual cases, allows the user to open additional communities based on past handling of other communities the user has been (or was supposed to be) modding.

Letting a user create 54 communities, especially those that were some of the biggest communities on Reddit is dangerous. Powermodding is a serious problem on online platforms and letting individual users create unlimited communities leads to it. Imagine how much money this person might want to sell their Account(s) for when the platform grows further and interest might accrue?

It is humanely impossible to mod more than a handful of communities alone anyways. The users you mentioned are powermods.

As another good example against freedom of creating unlimited communities is user LMAO whom most of you will probably at least have heard of by now, or even found when searching for a community that has numbers in its name.

I will stand by this position.

[–] JshKlsn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I mod a bunch. Only because I joined when Lemmy got it's big first wave, and the site was literally dead. My contribution was making communities for people to start posting in, because a ton of people simply don't want to moderate, or don't know how to create communities.

Within the first week I got a bunch of DMs from people asking to be mods, and I added all of them. I am not making communities to horde them. I am making them so people have places to post. To get the ball rolling.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

People trying to be power mods on Lemmy. We saw how well that worked on other sites...

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fix this problem now before all the Reddit refugees decide that the new boss isn't any better than the old boss.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get with the community admin and discuss if you are interested in it.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In most cases they are not going to respond either because they are inactive or they are intentionally squatting the names for whatever reason. They can't respond or they don't want to.

[–] Blaze@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this specific case the call for mod is public, open and with 0 comments of anyone asking to help: https://lemmy.world/post/1036821

[–] ktr41n@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The call to join 'their' team. Also, why did they create a community they had no interest in modding / participating in to begin with?

[–] Blaze@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, at this very moment, it's their team. They put an icon, a sidebar, a few users are posting.

I don't see what's your issue here. Why not join them if you want to mod that community? I'm sure they would be happy to have you onboard

[–] ktr41n@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like you, and several others, are entirely missing the point.

Its not that I want the community so much as I am concerned about the squatting aspect at large.

[–] Blaze@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Well, if they are squatting and not doing their jobs as mods, then people will ask the LW admins to remove them, and that's it.

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been trying to get an active mod to take over on the lemmy.world battlestations community, but despite my efforts posting in the lemmy.world support community which the admins have suggested doing for this exact issue there has been no change. https://lemmy.world/u/mandlar

In general I find it pointless for there to exist a million empty communities even when the creators have good intentions. Most of them are sub communities of a broader category which only serves to unnecessarily split a community while there is barely traffic in the broader topic. You shouldn't make a more specific topiced community unless the subject you want to discuss is getting burried in overwhelming traffic of the broader community.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mandler has not been active in a month. If you want any of the communities make a post there, tag me and I will add you as a moderator.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, I guess the admins removed u/sabbah from top mod of c/worldnews because they permabanned people for disagreeing with their personal opinions...

Figured you might want to know the new mods added them back already because they think sabbah is good at "conflict resolution"

https://lemmy.world/comment/1397441

[–] ktr41n@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lol is he legit running an alt with chatGPT?

Christ.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

The solution to this is going to an Instance that works the way you prefer. Not creating extra rules for this one.

People will sort themselves into the kinds of places they prefer, as time goes on.

[–] yaniv@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Good admins and moderation are the cornerstones of any community. Always have been, always will be.